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Saturday, October 23, 2021

Baldwin killing Halyna Hutchins was a tragedy, but no accident.

As I read the accounts of Alec Baldwin shooting and killing Halyna Hutchins on a movie set, everyone seems to sidestep the real issue.

What was Baldwin doing playing a gunslinger in a movie? He hates guns. He also is too temperamental and unstable to be producing anything. Both are factors in his killing Halyna Hutchins.

The media has been too kind to him by ignoring the hypocrisy of a man who publicly condemns guns trying to make a buck off playing a gunslinger in a movie.

His tweets are out there.

March 5, 2018, he tweeted, "I see that Dana Loesch wants to 'take back the truth.' And she doesn’t care how many dead bodies she has to step over in that pursuit.

"The Second Amendment is not a moral credit card that buys you all the guns you want.

"That law needs to be rethought."

Good luck getting 38 states to rethink "that law" and pass an amendment to repeal our rights to bear arms.

His scorn of guns apparently extends to gun safety. The New York Post reported, "Alec Baldwin failed to follow the No. 1 rule of gun safety before the fatal shooting on the set of 'Rust,' a Hollywood weapons expert tells The Post.

"'Loaded or unloaded, a weapon never gets pointed at another human being,' said Bryan Carpenter, who heads Dark Thirty Film Services.

"Even on a film or TV set, he said 'you never let the muzzle of a weapon cover something you don’t intend to destroy.'"

A reader told me his father was adamant about this rule that he did not want his kids to point a cap gun at each other.

Baldwin also made the tragic mistake of considering it to be a cold gun. There is no such thing. You treat every gun as being loaded. Better to be safe than a killer.

His management skills leave a lot to be desired.

Radar reported, "Members of Alec Baldwin's Rust crew walked off the New Mexico filming location, hours before the actor's fatally shot the movie's cinematographer with what was supposed to be a prop gun.

"According to the Los Angeles Times, a half-dozen camera crew workers left the low-budget set on Thursday in protest of the poor work conditions. One insider eerily told the outlet, 'there was a serious lack of safety meetings on this set.'

"Besides the alleged lack of safety concerns, camera operators and their assistants were reportedly upset at the long hours they were expected to endure, the low pay, and that they were allegedly forced to drive 50 miles one way to work per day."

Making people commute 100 miles a day in a bus on a ride that includes dirt roads is inhumane. Liberals make the worst bosses.

The woman who handed him the gun was non-union.

The New York Post reported, "The Hollywood armorer who tended to the deadly weapon used by Alec Baldwin on the set of 'Rust' had expressed doubts about her skills and ability to load prop guns.

"'You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready … but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,' Hannah Reed said last month in the Voices of the West podcast.

"Reed, whose dad is well known Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, made the podcast appearance while working on the set of the Nicholas Cage movie 'The Old Way.' That production just weeks ago marked her first time as a head armorer.

"She was working this past week with Baldwin on 'Rust' in New Mexico when the longtime actor killed director of photography Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza using a prop weapon."

Finally, the Hollywood Reporter in June asked him about "Rust," which was then an upcoming production.

The news outlet asked him, "How are your gun slinging and horse-riding skills?"

Baldwin said, "They’re always at the ready. I’m an actor of the old school. So if you read my resume — my motorcycle riding, my French, juggling, my horseback riding, my gunplay — is all right at my fingertips at all times."

Falling off a horse hurts you. Screwing up "gunplay" gets someone else killed.

Engineers say there is no such thing as an accident. Human error always comes into play. So it is in this case. Hypocrisy. Bad temper. Poor management skills. Overconfidence. 

Alec Baldwin shooting and killing Halyna Hutchins was not intentional. It was a tragedy, but it was no accident.

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    1. Since all the reporting said he both cocked it and triggered it without checking it, I'm w you. You never ever take someone else's word on a gun. I've watched someone clean a gun and still checked it before handing it.

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    2. Yes, Negligent Discharge. Every time a gun is fired unintentionally you can bet that someone wasn't following the rules of gun safety. This was impressed on us during our basic pistol course, the first course you should take before you handle a gun.

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    3. Negligent, NOT accidental, discharge. Will Baldwin be "Red Flagged" now and be unabled to access firearms?

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    4. As long as he was wearing a mask.

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  2. Amen, Dad was a range master in the Navy as an extra hat. All of us kids were brought up around hunting, bird dogs and both my Grandfather and Dad drilling in our heads, don't shoot if you can't see what you are shooting at and don't ever aim a gun (loaded or unloaded) at anything you didn't want to shoot. Period.

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    1. During my 21 years in the military we utilized the MILES, multiple integrated laser engagement system. We used blanks and we pointed our weapons directly at each other.
      We had blank adapters in, but those are easily removed and can be shot off if you put a live round in the chamber.

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    2. A ball round can't get through a blank adapter. Your barrel would blow up first.

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  3. Excellent analysis posted on William Jacobson’s site yesterday. Every gun owner should know this information as it’s included in gun safety training and CC class. My prayers to this lovely woman’s family. https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/10/legal-analysis-does-alec-baldwin-have-criminal-exposure-after-shooting-woman-dead-in-apparent-mistake/

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  4. I would pick a different word than tragedy. If Alec had been shot, that would have been a tragedy because it wouldn't have been a Great Loss, and probably not an accident.
    Let's call this what it really is, a homicide, or a murder.

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  5. Baldwin wasn't negligent, he was reckless. It was reckless disregard and he should be prosecuted.

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    1. It is more than recklessness. Baldwin knows all the safety rules, from both previous sets he has been on and from comments to his stance on gun control.

      So knowing Baldwin's persona from previous news stories about him, what do you think his reaction would have been to the armorer or the assistant director saying, "Hey Alex, remember to check the chamber"?

      The Greeks have a word for it: hubris.

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  6. Never never let your gun/Pointed be at any one/That it may unloaded be/Matters not the least to me… There’s more, but it’s all easy, all memorable, and all easy to find on google. This is shameful.

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  7. You raise a good point: Why was a fervent anti-gun type in a western in which he shoots a gun? Hypocrisy. Careless and negligent on his part for sure. Does he not know anything about gun safety? Apparently not. And he'll likely skate. The tragedy will remain, however.

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  8. I've heard it said that one of the reasons why some people hate guns is that they know that they don't have control over their temper and think they would use a gun in anger, if they had one. They then project this failing upon others and so don't trust them to own and use guns responsibility. It looks to me that Baldwin's hatred of guns may well stem from such a concern and protection.
    If the details trickling out about this incident are accurate then like almost all accidents, there is more than one contributing factor, any one of which if missing could have prevented the outcome.
    In other words plenty of blame to go around.
    However, while I could see the blame placed on someone other than the person pulling the trigger if the circumstances were that an actor is given a gun used a a prop, told that the rounds with which it was loaded were non lethal(low powered blanks for the smoke and flash effect) and that the scene called for pointing it at another actor and pulling the trigger from some point deemed to be a safe distance away, none of that scenario seems to be the case here.
    Baldwin owns this mistake. Only he chose to point that weapon at a human being and pull the trigger.
    Absolute dumbass.

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    1. I have read accounts (accurate???) that they were standing behind a mirror and he fired through the mirror. I wonder if he was firing at his reflection? Team America got him right

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  9. I notice that none of the accounts I've read include the fact that Baldwin is a producer of this Rust movie.

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  10. Odds on she was spurning the pukes amorous advances.

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    1. One source said she had rebuffed his advances, but I haven't seen it repeated. Is it valid? Need to find out.

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  11. The account of the incident is unclear as whether he fired once, striking both individuals, or twice. If it was twice, he should be criminally charged. Revolvers in the "old west" as was the era of this particular drama, were single action weapons, which means he had to cock the hammer to discharge the weapon more than once.

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    1. From what I read, the bullet passed thru the camera lady and into the director. He was standing right behind her looking at same monitor. Still doesn't negate the fact he had to both cock the hammer and pull the trigger. I'm thinking that almost had to be a real bullet as I don't think a blank would have that power even standing right in front of her

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    2. I agree. In fact, I’m betting it was a ball-nose round. A hollow point would have mushroomed and stopped in the first person, without passing through to the second. That’s why hollow points are the best defensive round; it’s designed to kill the person it hits and no one else.

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  12. The fight to make excuses for him does seem to be going uphill.

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  13. The Safety and state of load is the responsibility
    of the armory....The state of training of the actor
    with respect to gun handling is on the producer....
    Having a projectile in a prop gun is a criminal act
    and who purposely did it must be determined.....

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  14. Well there’s the NRA’s new advertising campaign…

    “Don’t be Alec Baldwin. Take the official NRA firearms safety training.”

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  15. “A half-dozen camera crew workers left the low-budget set on Thursday in protest of the poor work conditions. … camera operators and their assistants were reportedly upset at the long hours, the low pay, and being forced to drive 50 miles one way to work per day.” Why was this a “low budget” film? It’s not some student production for college credit. Baldwin is a well-known, long-time actor. Was his wage demand so high they could not afford an experienced crew and proper housing accommodations? Or is he such an ass that he tried to squeeze every nickel out of his subordinates? I’m no fan of labor unions, but I have to wonder if Hutchins would still be alive if it was a professional, union-run production.

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  16. The irony here is overwhelming - Alec Baldwin; an anti-gun left-wing lunatic firing a gun at a cinematographer and killing her. If you think the god people like Baldwin worship - Satan, is not real, do you need any further proof? Satan despises God's creations and has no hesitation in destroying them; be they innocent or guilty (Hutchins one; Baldwin the other).

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  17. Can anyone tell me how a blank can kill someone, since there's no projectile? And If it wasn't a blank, whatthehell is LIVE AMMO DOING AT A MOVIE SET? Live ammo implies murder . . .

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  18. A blank produces high pressure/speed gas, plus most have something in the end of the cartridge to hold the powder in. It will kill at very close range, it will NOT go through and into another person. He fired a fully loaded cartridge, with a bullet shot out of the barrel.

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  19. “Corners Were Being Cut”: Baldwin Shooting Already Has The Makings of a Blockbuster Tort Action
    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/10/23/corners-were-being-cut-baldwin-shooting-already-has-the-makings-a-blockbuster-tort-action/

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  20. If this had been an actor that supported gun rights, the media would have already tried, convicted, and sentenced them to death as a criminal murderer deserving of punishment. Right now, the media is doing their best to make Baldwin look like a victim in this situation.

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  21. WE have to wait and see what eyewitnesses saw including he director. Was Baldwin playing around?

    Whatever, his career is finished and so is his marriage.

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  22. People have said "Baldwin's just an actor and can't be considered responsible for what he's been handed." They are wrong. Here's another actor:

    https://twitter.com/heckyessica/status/1451386329737146371?s=20

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    1. Didn't Nuremburg settle that nonsense, that following instructions doesn't relieve someone from responsibility for their bad actions?

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  23. My father was a Marine. Coached the battalion pistol team. I was shooting since I was 3. Never had a 'toy' gun. Only real ones. All rules applied all the time. Playing with 'toy' guns teach bad habits.

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  28. I'm waiting for someone to come forward and tell the world Baldwin was target shooting on the set.
    Lots of leftists "hate" guns until they use one and many find target shooting to be fun. Wouldn't it be great if Baldwin was a closet target shooter and this was the gun he used?

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  29. A couple of things: First, what's the diff between a real and "prop" gun, when the supposed prop can be taken to a range and used for target practice? Shouldn't a prop gun's chamber be such that it can *only* fit blanks? Second, The Third Law of Gun Safety is that when one is handed to you, the first thing you do is check to see if there is a round in the chamber, even if you just saw it being checked five seconds ago. I always keep the action (or cylinder) open when handing off.

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  30. Here is what I do not understand. Why are guns with blanks used at all, especially real guns that COULD be loaded with real bullets?

    It is 2021. Why are there no prop guns made that are simply plastic shells, very realistic looking, with a battery inside them, and a voltage coil inside them that produces a muzzle flash? It could also release a bit of smoke. No projectiles, no explosion, impossible for ANYTHING to happen that could possibly hurt anyone.

    Movies already replace any sound made by shooting blanks--even live rounds being shot don't sound like the noises in movies, never have.

    How archaic and asinine it is that with all of Hollywood's money, they have to user real guns and "armorers" on a set.

    This is the point that NO ONE talks about!

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