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Monday, August 23, 2021

Afghanistan learned the lesson of Vietnam

While Milley was reading Marx and Mao, the Taliban leaders and the leaders of the Afghan government we set up were reading about Vietnam. They knew the answer to John Kerry's question in 1971, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

That last man to die in Vietnam was not an American, but a Vietnamese soldier fighting for the Republic of Vietnam. Afghans decided they would not be the last to die in this war.

(Charles McMahon and Darwin Judge, Marines guarding the U.S. Embassy died on April 29, 1975, the day before the Fall of Saigon. They were the last American casualties. They were 21 and 19, respectively.)

Our generals thought that just like in Vietnam, they had two years left. 

Afghans had other plans.

The mindset of the generals was revealed in the New York Times spin on the Fall of Kabul, "Miscue After Miscue, U.S. Exit Plan Unravels."

Marx-reading Milley and his team of Tall Ticket Punchers with their Boards of Medals on their chests knew surrendering the country would lead to a repeat of the Fall of Saigon. They thought the Afghan soldiers would be willing to die for our country in retreat, just like the Vietnamese did.

The story began, "The nation’s top national security officials assembled at the Pentagon early on April 24 for a secret meeting to plan the final withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan. It was two weeks after President Biden had announced the exit over the objection of his generals, but now they were carrying out his orders.

"In a secure room in the building’s extreme basement, two floors below ground level, Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met with top White House and intelligence officials. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken joined by video conference. After four hours, two things were clear.

"First, Pentagon officials said they could pull out the remaining 3,500 American troops, almost all deployed at Bagram Air Base, by July 4 — two months earlier than the Sept. 11 deadline Mr. Biden had set. The plan would mean closing the airfield that was the American military hub in Afghanistan, but Defense Department officials did not want a dwindling, vulnerable force and the risks of service members dying in a war declared lost.

"Second, State Department officials said they would keep the American Embassy open, with more than 1,400 remaining Americans protected by 650 Marines and soldiers. An intelligence assessment presented at the meeting estimated that Afghan forces could hold off the Taliban for one to two years. There was brief talk of an emergency evacuation plan — helicopters would ferry Americans to the civilian airport in Kabul, the capital — but no one raised, let alone imagined, what the United States would do if the Taliban gained control of access to that airport, the only safe way in and out of the country once Bagram closed.

"The plan was a good one, the group concluded.

"Four months later, the plan is in shambles as Mr. Biden struggles to explain how a withdrawal most Americans supported went so badly wrong in its execution. On Friday, as scenes of continuing chaos and suffering at the airport were broadcast around the world, Mr. Biden went so far as to say that 'I cannot promise what the final outcome will be, or what it will be that it will be without risk of loss.'"

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The plan was a good one, the group concluded.

Wrong Way Corrigan thought he had a good plan, too.

So Milley and the rest thought after we left in September, our Afghanistan allies would be our fall guys, just like the South Vietnamese were a half-century ago.

Milley was the expert because 41 years ago at Princeton, he wrote a 185-page-long senior thesis titled "A Critical Analysis of Revolutionary Guerrilla Organization in Theory and Practice."

Unfortunately for him, the Afghan people did not read his thesis and put his theory in practice. 

They had other ideas. The warlords who control certain regions figured if a Taliban takeover is inevitable, why fight? Accept the bribe, capitulate, and maybe they will share some of that billions in loot they will take when Americans leave behind all that equipment, just like we left behind in Vietnam. 

Flying in a Blackhawk helicopter beats driving to Kabul in a Bentley convertible.

Afghan's president vamoosed a week ago. There is no Afghan government except the Taliban.

The best spin Democrats and the Deep State can do to the disaster is to say we did not expect the Afghan government to surrender before we got out. 

What do you know? The Afghans screwed the Pentagon before the Pentagon could screw them.

It was the worst defeat in American military history. Biden made the decision, but the generals with all their badges (combat infantryman, master parachutist, and special operations diver) and Ranger tabs gave him bad, bad, bad advice.

The Times story said, "The president’s top intelligence officers echoed that uncertainty, privately offering concerns about the Afghan abilities. But they still predicted that a complete Taliban takeover was not likely for at least 18 months. One senior administration official, discussing classified intelligence information that had been presented to Mr. Biden, said there was no sense that the Taliban were on the march.

"In fact, they were. Across Afghanistan the Taliban were methodically gathering strength by threatening tribal leaders in every community they entered with warnings to surrender or die. They collected weapons, ammunition, volunteers and money as they stormed from town to town, province to province."

President Trump's plan was based on assuming a Fall of Saigon would come quickly. President Trump told Miranda Devine of the New York Post what his plan was.

He said, "We were going to not let people get slaughtered. I wanted to get out. But you have to get out safely and you have to get out with respect."

His plan was an American one in which women and children leave first.

He said, "All civilians were going to come out before the military. Everyone should have been out before they took our military out." 

Democrats and the Deep State had no such plan. They thought they had plenty of time. They thought of the Afghanistan people as backward little brown people, just as the Democrats and the Deep State thought of the Vietnamese people as backward little yellow people 60 years ago under LBJ.

The Afghanistan people are not stupid.

They knew the only correct answer to John Kerry's question of who should be "the last man to die for a mistake?" is not me.

Biden's Blunder and the Taliban's Plunder certainly should give our NATO partners a pause. The United States no longer is a trustworthy ally because its politics no longer end at the water's edge.

And the thing is, Afghanistan was not a mistake. We just stayed too long. We could have had another South Korea or Iraq.

Instead, we have this.

40 comments:

  1. Big D, many readers may already know but the latest poll of Xiden approval by state has Almost Heaven leading the field at 20/76. Shelly and Skipper Joe need to wake the fook up, stat.

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  2. They forgot a old military maxim, that even a Private gets- "With regards to any military plan, the Enemy gets a vote"

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  3. I'll repeat Kissinger here again:
    Having the US as an enemy can be dangerous, but having the US as a friend can be fatal

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    1. This is why there is so much fear and uneasiness in Taiwan right now. They know Biden has already folded to Red China.

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  4. As the situation in Kabul continues to deteriorate our masters in DC must be hoping for some kind of domestic disaster to distract the proles. Maybe a Cat 5 hurricane coming ashore in a populated area or another FBI false flag domestic terrorism event.

    Shame Lt. M.L. Byrd!

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  5. And so Milley the incompetent fool is back at his desk this Monday morning...

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    1. Probably with a few new ribbons for the Afghan withdrawal.

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    2. Have you seen the twin photos of Ike and Thoroughly Modern Milley? Ike had a small cluster on his chest, and Milley looks like a North Korean General.

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    3. I don't doubt those old Nork soldiers went up against the Americans in 1951 and lived tell about it. I'm sure they earned those decorations, unlike our own costumed clowns.

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  7. Morons and Idiots get rewarded. Austin and Milley can high five themselves, until the weapons left behind are used in this country. Even the corrupt US Pravda news service is starting to open their eyes. Yet, Kamala is worse. I am sure the Chinese will be concerned as they know when they attack Taiwan, we won't come to their rescue.

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  8. The Dems have shot themselves in the feet...and up to the waist. The Dems, of course, will spin their lies big and wide, and deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. I think that maybe we have some intelligent one- and two-star generals (I met a couple when they were Colonels), but the 3- and 4-stars, that's just too long ago.

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    1. They are a far sight from the likes of "Old Blood and Guts", "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell, and Anthony "Nuts!" McCauliffe. Just a bunch of Princeton educated, merit-badged pussies who continue to fail upward. Not a one of them could carry A swagger stick for a real war- fighting general.

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  9. Now we know why you no longer need the Bentley. The question remains is why you would go to kabul?

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  10. Afghanistan is not Vietnam. They don't call Vietnam the "graveyard of Empires"

    USA 2021 is Soviet Union 1988, a corrupt bankrupt country unraveling. That is the proper analogy.

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    1. Corrigan is one of my aviation heroes. Classic Irish and he stuck to his story classic pilot .

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    2. Corrigan's plan was good. He TOLD 'em he would go back west, but flew east instead. He knew what he was doing.

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  12. Mr. Surber, you insulted Wrong Way. All along, his plan was to fly to Europe. Officials wouldn't approve it. So, he filed a flight plan for, I believe, Los Angeles, and then turned left. To compare Wrong Way to this debacle is to insult him.

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  13. The absolute worst and first thing wrong with Biden's plan is the 9/11 target date. Why would anyone grant a perceived victory to the forces of Islamist expansion on the date of their greatest historical defeat.

    Does nobody in high office know about the relief of the siege of Vienna. I guarantee those goat-rapers do and have been trying to avenge it ever since. How is it a general can ignore the significance to enemy morale.

    Idiots and losers, all.

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    1. I think Millecent knew exactly what he was doing to apologize for whiteness and privilege of the winged Hussars of Poland to save Vienna.

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  14. OK, first we know a lot of people tried to talk the lying dogfaced pony soldier out of his decision.

    Second, we know intel is anything but an exact science (Battle of the Bulge, anyone?).

    Third, the soldiers in the Afghan Army were there because it was OK with the tribe (be interesting to know how much stuff attributed to be in the hands of the Taliban is in the hands of one of the tribes opposing it), the tribe being the overarching bedrock in any Afghan's life.

    When the poobahs in the government split, the troopers went back to their tribe(s) to carry on the war the way they'd always done.

    PS Milley sounds like another Willie Whitewater or Hildabeast.

    We need to start screening these guys.

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    1. I was thinking more along the lines of Chosin and Task Force Smith

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  15. I admit this looks like a real disaster but I get the feeling that Biden is capable of more and worse. Three and a half years to go!

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  16. the "pacification" of Afghanistan was doable IMHO simply if you were willing to "execute" a plan worthy of Tasmania in 1830...land forces at Bagram Airbase then fan out and "terminate" everyone you encounter until you reach the borders of neighboring countries; if not that, then stay away and fire a $2-million missile at a $10 empty tent every now and then in order to hit a camel in the butt

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  17. The Times article refers to "top White House and intelligence officials," "Pentagon officials," "Defense Department officials," and "State Department officials." Who were these officials? Why aren't they named? Shouldn't they be held accountable instead of sneaking away into anonymity? All the officials involved need to be named and made to answer for their conduct, up and down the chain of command.

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  18. Every American soldier has been betrayed since Korea. The politicians don't give a rats A$$ about the welfare of the soldiers they send to die in wars not fought to win. They pump their chests and rake in billions from funding the machine. And it does not matter what side of the fence they are on. Same goes for us citizens. We do not matter to them. They are all self serving bums to the highest order.

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  19. I wonder if H.R. McMaster will right "Dereliction of Duty II", with him and his other perfumed prince buddies in a starring role?

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  21. I've said it elsewhere but the Americans who are stuck in Afghanistan have probably been sold to the Taliban. Once the 31st passes, expect to hear ransom demands, see executions and hear about the families being sold as slaves.

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  23. Afghanistan was NEVER going to be another South Korea.

    Don, name all the times our South Korean allies murdered American military personnel and American contractors just like all the times our so-called Afghanistan “allies” murdered American personnel in their country.

    Unbelievable ignorance of history.

    Google “Green on Blue Attacks.” Show me where these attacks occurred in South Korea in the same way they occurred in Afghanistan.

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  26. Afghan soldiers were -mercenary- fighters... they fought for a paycheck and not a principle. As soon as the manna from the U.S. stopped flowing, they quit fighting.

    It's clear that nobody in our current 'leadership' read or understood Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, or Von Clausewitz.

    Mercenary soldiers are a last resort and to be avoided because they are only after the spoils, but they are not committed to the cause. The Taliban are fighting for a principle and a belief, that makes them much more formidable than a foe who grows weary and just wants to go home.

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