Joanne Jacobs reported, "Locked out of high school in Memphis, Hispanic boys are working construction jobs and taking pride in helping support their families, reports Chalkbeat’s Ian Round."
Her story went on to say many young black males (and those of other minorities) are eschewing school in favor of collecting a paycheck.
Well, why not?
These are not stupid men. Far from it. They are doing what they believe is in their best interest,
College is expensive and anymore is geared toward women. An accusation is all a woman needs to get an ex-boyfriend expelled for rape.
Why should young men go into debt when they can get a job, get a car, and get a girl without the hassle of being accused of rape when they break up?
As for high-school dropouts, they help themselves and their schools by eliminating someone who does not want to be there. A GED at 18 is just as good as a diploma, especially as they have been downgraded to a certificate of faithful attendance.
KOMO reported, "Baltimore City Schools: 41% of high school students earn below 1.0 GPA."
Sounds like they already dropped out.
Oh good grief. Let my people free.
I get that dropouts are X times as likely to wind up in prison, do drugs, listen to heavy metal music, and do donuts in the courthouse lawn.
But you know something? Being born male automatically makes you 9 times as likely to go to prison. We can play these numbers games all day, but the bottom line is that we are all individuals and the only thing we owe society is not to harm others.
The argument that they should not make a decision that may adversely affect the rest of their lives is laughable in a world where judges allow 10-year-olds to take treatments to change sexes.
They're probably going to end up making more money than their "educated" peers.
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DeleteI graduated high school and did not go to college. I spent 30 years in the Marines (But I would not join or recommend anyone join, under the current leadership of the Armed Forces or country). After retirement from the Corps I continued to work in defense. With my pension and current salary, I make nearly $200K a year.
DeleteYou're a good freeloader. Sorry, but it was the gloating that got to me.
DeleteSorry, income statistics indicate a person with a bachelor's degree makes 60% more over their lifetime than a person with no degree and a person with a master's degree makes 100% more.
DeleteSorry, thats an old statistic. The guy who fixes your toilet or leaking roof makes more than most college students today.
DeleteBeing naturally stupid and immature, I waited tell after I was Drafted and released from the Army to go to College on the GI bill.....I wanted to be an Aeronautical Engineer and ended up a Corporate Pilot for an Insurance Company !!!!
DeleteMy neighbor started out as a plumber working alone night and day for about two years. He now has a Fleet of trucks is Franchised with investments in Hawaii Condos and just Paid $1.4 Million into building a Factory making Cattle watering Systems selling World Wide .... while I sit here, RETIRED, with a College Degree and No Money !!!!
DeleteBring back vocational schools!!!
DeleteDon’t under estimate the power of feeling useful
ReplyDeleteMy middle daughter got pregnant during her senior year and went to a continuation school for her GED. She has now completed a BS program in nursing, works as a nurse at one of our local hospitals and have just been admitted into a Masters program in nursing. I think it depends more on the mind set and determination as to how life works out.
ReplyDeleteAmen
DeleteWomen are being singled out and set up for success by the left wing antimale proponents of equity. A guy has to pay his dues on the job before getting those upper end opportunites.
DeleteBingo, Bango, Nail meet Hammer !!!
DeleteWhen they rush out the stat that those with a college degree earn more than the high school grad, they always leave out that the college grads are a subset of those with a high school diploma and so many are already the most motivated to succeed among high school graduates.
DeleteCollege used to "force" a student to bloom earlier than they might, but now just produces a lot of hot house flowers.
"The idea is, of course, that men are successful because they have gone to college. No idea was ever more absurd. No man is successful because he has managed to pass a certain number of courses and has received a sheepskin which tells the world in Latin, that neither the world nor the graduate can read, that he has successfully completed the work required. If the man is successful, it is because he has the qualities for success in him; the college "education" has merely, speaking in terms' of horticulture, forced those qualities and given him certain intellectual tools with which to work—tools which he could have got without going to college, but not nearly so quickly. So far as anything practical is concerned, a college is simply an intellectual hothouse. For four years the mind of the undergraduate is put "under glass," and a very warm and constant sunshine is poured down upon it. The result is, of course, that his mind blooms earlier than it would in the much cooler intellectual atmosphere of the business world.
"A man learns more about business in the first six months after his graduation than he does in his whole four years of college. But—and here is the "practical" result of his college work—he learns far more in those six months than if he had not gone to college. He has been trained to learn, and that, to all intents and purposes, is all the training he has received. To say that he has been trained to think is to say essentially that he has been trained to learn, but remember that it is impossible to teach a man to think. The power to think must be inherently his. All that the teacher can do is help him learn to order his thoughts—such as they are."
Marks, Percy, "Under Glass", Scribner's Magazine Vol 73, 1923, p 47
I think at 16 everyone should be allowed to take the GED. Some places you can drop out of school (legally) at 16, but can't take the GED until 18. A lot of kids "disappear" without legally checking out. Letting them take the GED would be at least some incentive to make the move out of school with everyone's blessing. I think most kids would take the test if it meant they could start their adult lives sooner. Go to work, learn a trade, go to college, or choose to stay in high school if they fail. The last two years of high school aren't exactly a waste of time, but for the vast majority of kids there are better ways to spend them.
ReplyDeleteThe last 2 years of hight school didn't USE TO BE a waste of time. Now, with today's "woke" education (indoctrination) system, the LESS time students are exposed to the leftist rot there, the better. Sad, but it is, what it is. Today's high school "graduates" can't even make change for a dollar, or write their own names in long hand.
DeleteNow that 2+2 equals 5, who cares?
DeleteHow about this:
DeleteParents get a voucher for their children to go to any school the parents want.
The private schools are allowed to discriminate however they want.
The voucher amount for each child is equal to total district spending divided by number of school age children in district.
If parents shop and save, the savings go into the child's 'education savings mutual fund investment account', and upon graduation is usable for college, trade school, or starting a business.
If the school the parents pick is so good they don't waste kids lives and time, and the kid graduates a year or two early, the kid gets the money for that year or two, also, into their account.
Schools are about the money. Public schools get their funding based on attendance. They will always oppose letting their funding sources test out early.
Delete40+ years ago when I was in high school, I was left alone in most of my junior and all of my senior year because, I showed up before 4th period to sign in and make attendance that day. I had a B average and didn't cause trouble, they got their cash. My senior year I only need an English class taught in the afternoon by the local community college for dual credit. So I wasn't harassed by the school.
A friend's father went to the school board to get him on half days but it was all about the money. When dad pulled out his checkbook, they changed their tune, so it was also all about the body count.
My late wife got in trouble for suggesting the idea that it wasn't necessary to get a diploma and it was better to get training and aGED.
ReplyDeleteLocal NEA was apolectic.
Most parents don't seem to realize this, but babies are born with starving minds. They want to know EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, as soon as they open their eyes in this strange, new world around them. So I think their education should begin at birth, with parents reading to them, talking to them clearly, etc. Teach them to read as early as possible and try to cultivate that hunger for knowledge. Far too often that natural curiosity is discouraged and stifled by neglect because childrearing is inconvenient for adults, who often don't want to be bothered. Parents need to understand that bringing up their children is the most important thing they'll ever do.
ReplyDeleteWomen have been taken out of the home and in so doing we are neglecting generations of children. Girls don’t know science because we have taken them out of the home. Chemistry and biology were essential for the running of a household. As was math! Saying that a woman is equal to a man is ridiculous! We are different! This is evident in Women’s sports now that we have trans men competing against women. Let’s learn and retract the skills of the past to our children boys and girls! We might need them very soon!
DeleteWomen have been taken out of the home and in so doing we are neglecting generations of children. Girls don’t know science because we have taken them out of the home. Chemistry and biology were essential for the running of a household. As was math! Saying that a woman is equal to a man is ridiculous! We are different! This is evident in Women’s sports now that we have trans men competing against women. Let’s learn and retract the skills of the past to our children boys and girls! We might need them very soon!
DeleteWomen have been taken out of the home and in so doing we are neglecting generations of children. Girls don’t know science because we have taken them out of the home. Chemistry and biology were essential for the running of a household. As was math! Saying that a woman is equal to a man is ridiculous! We are different! This is evident in Women’s sports now that we have trans men competing against women. Let’s learn and retract the skills of the past to our children boys and girls! We might need them very soon!
DeleteWomen have been taken out of the home and in so doing we are neglecting generations of children. Girls don’t know science because we have taken them out of the home. Chemistry and biology were essential for the running of a household. As was math! Saying that a woman is equal to a man is ridiculous! We are different! This is evident in Women’s sports now that we have trans men competing against women. Let’s learn and retract the skills of the past to our children boys and girls! We might need them very soon!
DeleteLife is a great educator.
ReplyDeleteIt's also a great leveller.
Why doesn't the Catholic Church educate them?
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't the Catholic Church educate them?
ReplyDeleteIt should be mentioned also that many public schools, and not just inner city schools, no longer teach things that will help students become productive and happy citizens. Working in construction won't just provide a paycheck but will likely teach the young students skills and knowledge much more valuable than they would get in public school.
ReplyDeleteI loved working construction during my summers in college - $12/hr in 70s on union jobs, $18/hr o/t, living at home, job, car, dates on Friday & Saturday nights, got paid to get in great physical shape…..
ReplyDeleteRight on.
DeleteCheck out the alumni of Mike Rowe's "Mike Rowe Works" and see how the folks completing THAT program are doing. They earn significantly more than college "educated" twits and they have no student loan debt.
ReplyDeleteDropped out pf college in my junior year. This was 1972 and was a prestigious college. I was paying $1200 a semester which was a lot back then. I shudder to think what that school is charging now. Used my Navy electronics training to get a job at IBM. 31.5 years later I retired as a systems programmer. It turns out that was the job I was meant to have. - GOC
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question DSW, my daughters recently graduated in past few years. 1 from Rollins college (approximately $60k per year) the other Coastal Carolina (approximately $30k per year). Both are doing great but the Coastal graduate is still conservative like dad. The Rollins graduate is a FLAMING Lib (and I named her Ragen after Ronaldo Maximums!!!) UGh!!! I paid a fortune for her indoctrination!
Deleteyou f up mom. why didn't her dad step in and make a msound decision with the 'fortune'?
DeleteI live in a area where many do not finish high school and start working construction or other physical, demanding labor (farming, ranching, mechanic, etc.).
ReplyDeleteWhat I hate is that no one teaches these people the importance of paying themselves first - saving and investing some of their earnings. One injury and there goes everything.
I have helped some of the people that have worked on our house. They used to spend half of their wages as soon as they are earned. Stop and get a sausage and biscuit and juice in the morning at the gas station. Mountain Dew bought for later. Go to lunch at the gas station or grocery store (1 meat and 3 vegetables) along with another Mountain Dew. Another Mountain Dew and a snack on the way home, some beer and cigarettes and they are left with rent, gas and some meal money.
I helped them see how they could do better and start planning for their future.
Helping a few is better than none, but so many around me have never planned for the future. Some are in their 70s and still working if they can, because they have to. The younger ones will never be able to retire. Social Security isn't enough.
Trade school or college I told my children. 2 of 4 chose college. I went to college until my 6 months of working 3 jobs to save money disappeared and my desire left me so I joined the Navy and was trained to be a submarine nuclear reactor operator. 6 years doing that and 6 years as a civilian reactor operator, senior operator, shift supervisor and reactor loading specialist. Obvious I advanced pretty quickly. Then based on my reported experience, I was hired over the phone to become a field startup engineer and eventually a SU manager for fossil and nuclear projects with an international company. I have pushed for and helped obtain a votech school for our county. By going where others would not, I saved a lot of money and retired at 62. Ones limits are mostly what you create, IMO.
ReplyDeletemar - SSN or SSBN? My boat was SS 567 (STS-2 when I left in 77)
DeleteSSBN 632 and 624. The Von Steuben 632 was the better of the two due to our Captain, Billy Ray even with our underwater collision. An Admiral was on board and we handled the accident so well Billy Ray was not relieved of command.
DeleteMy oldest was in the sonar gang on SSNs, an SSBN and a Trident during his 20 years.
I was in from 1965-71- ETR-2; never touched a radar unit after ET school.
My navy training, as I indicated, set me up for life. Funny thing was my nuclear power school managed to screw up my final selection board interview so I missed out on Annapolis; no one seemly could unvolunteer from Rickover's program. That was my second loss of an appointment due to politics. But I survived.
Being as independent and hard headed as I was and still are, the Academy probably wasn't for me anyway.
Take care and be safe.
My Mercedes mechanic, who owns his own shop, has a house on a river and a Piper. Net worth over 1.75 million
ReplyDeleteNew York City had a group of vocational high schools scattered among the five boroughs that taught not only building trades, but also automotive and aircraft mechanics. Some of these schools are still around but I don't know about today's attendance. In addition, learning to drive a truck can lead to a good living.
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ReplyDeleteMy high school (US facility on a USAF base) couldn't get a shop teacher to hire on. So our shop facilities lay fallow. I was really bummed.
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ReplyDeleteCan’t argue with Don’s logic in this article. At all.
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I spent 30 years in the white collar world before I moved to blue collar 10 years ago. I’ve made more in those 10 years than the first 30 and worked with a consistently better group of people.
ReplyDeleteIt's no longer a college education, it's a college -indoctrination-... and women are more easily hypnotized than men, so it's a 2 for 1 deal for the Marxist professors.
ReplyDeleteAmerica is facing a tremendous shortage of skilled trades and vocational-technical people. My local plumber makes more than I do on a per hour basis, and he has no shortage of work.
When I need a new addition or repairs, I won't call my local 'womens studies' or 'indigenous peoples' major.
Plus, you have trades schools that can teach you much more valuable skills than college. You learn the trade, take the tests, get the certification and are making money. People are lazy and can't fix their own ac, cars, electrical or plumbing issues..will always be a need for that and you dont have crazy debt. The biggest bonus your mind is not contaminated.
ReplyDeleteMales die 92% of Workplace Accidents...
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Higher education is good if your in the STEM fields, otherwise college today doesn't make you more educated at all. I believe universities actually make you dumber.
ReplyDeleteYou're as in You are. Just kidding, but I disagree with the whole premise of this story and the comments. STEM is marketable, but so are many other things learned in college. Every kid is not going to excel in STEM simply because he/she has been schooled in it. When I was finishing up high school, I visited my guidance office to get some help with the next steps. It was more of a travel agency than an advisor. I ended up not going to college for two years and I did not finish for thirteen years, BUT I was a motivated student studying things I wanted to make a living doing. I also got someone else (my employer) to pay the bills.
DeleteWhen my kids were in school, I studied their aptitudes and guided them towards activities that would help them in the real world. When it came time to consider college, I helped them choose the schools and majors. My oldest is pulling down six figures five years out of school doing something he loves. My youngest has just graduated.
I paid their bills. They have no debt.
To restate your comment, "Higher education is good if it strengthens your abilities in the field you choose to make your vocation."
Mr. Surber is correct that, for some, college is a waste of time and money, but the right education for the right person can be very valuable.
One of the great things we learned during the Lockdown is that you do not have to take a bus to a building to get an education. Concurrently, many vocations are transitioning from degree to certification qualifications. It's entirely possible that our grandchildren will get their employer funded education while working for their entire working life.
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ReplyDeleteDon't pay to have your children indoctrinated. If out of high school, send them to tech schools where they'll learn a skill and likely not be saturated with Marxism.
ReplyDeleteEven back in my school days 1949 to 1961, I skipped post secondary ed. In fact, I dropped out of grade 11 and hit the road. I never looked back. I worked in the fields of music and blue collar skills. I was self-employed for 95% of my working life ... it's was great to work at what interested me, and that I did everything my way.
ReplyDeleteI believe I saved myself by dropping out. I know some went on to university ... most of them did okay, but they all hated their jobs.
Uni, trade school or military beyond HS/ GED is a must to have a shot at good life today for most.
ReplyDeleteUni, trade school or military beyond HS/ GED is a must to have a shot at good life today for most.
ReplyDeleteYou don't need college...you need a PLAN. If the plan includes work, education, perhaps eventually a college degree a decade down the line, or expertise in a trade (someone's got to repair all those robots coming online) that'll be fine. The plan must include retirement savings EARLY to take advantage of compounding of interest. My pal's kid learned nuclear power plant maintenance right out of HS. He's a highly-paid manager for one of the few companies that does this work, with a solid retirement. No college!
ReplyDeleteIf you plan to be a doctor or lawyer or nurse or Accountant, you still need college. And isn't a cushy job like that what we all want for our children?
DeleteI graduated from a technical high school and went to college to get an engineering degree when I was 30. There is no obligation to pursue Advanced High School if you have no interest in what they're offering.
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