In a way-too-early poll, Politico found more Republicans want Donald Trump Junior as their presidential nominee in '24 than want Mitt Romney of Michigan, Massachusetts, Utah, and Cucamonga.
The poll asked 645 Republicans, "If the 2024 Republican primary were being held today, for whom would you vote?"
53% said Donald Trump, 12% said Mike Pence, 6% said Trump Jr., and 6% said Nikki Haley.
Mittens and Ted Cruz each got 4%, followed by Marco Rubio and Mike Pompeo at 2%, with everyone else getting 1% or less.
The others were Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, Tim Scott, Kristi Noem, Larry Hogan, and Rick Scott.
Ron DeSantis did not make the list.
The poll excited the Mormon church-owned Deseret News.
It ran a story, "National poll shows Mitt Romney still on the radar as 2024 GOP presidential candidate."
The story said, "Utah Sen. Mitt Romney would pick up some votes if the 2024 Republican presidential primary election were held today, according a new national poll.
"Former President Donald Trump dwarfs all potential candidates in the survey with 53% of Republicans saying they would vote for him. Other than former Vice President Mike Pence at 12%, all other GOP hopefuls polled in the single digits. Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and Donald Trump Jr. each had 6% in the poll of 1,984 registered Republican voters conducted Feb. 14-15."
"The Politico/Morning Consult flash poll found Romney would get 4% of the vote, tying him with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.
Actually the poll was of 1,984 registered voters. The presidential preference question was asked of 645 registered Republicans.
So it looks like Republicans want to nominate Donald Trump in 2024. They just cannot decide if it is senior or junior that they want.
Why not both?
It is a bad idea to have children of presidents become president. I’d feel the same about spouses, siblings, first cousins, and parents. That sort of thing is bad for a republic.
ReplyDeleteGuess you’re not a Quincy fan then? He did a respectable job during a time in the nation’s life that was almost as fooked up as today...
DeleteJohn Quincy Adams stole the 1824 election from Andrew Jackson. He used his theft to be a mediocre president. Which means he was a better president than his duplicitous father, who fathered the horrible Alien and Sedition Acts and packed the federal bureaucracy with loyalists to him when Thomas Jefferson had been rightfully elected.
DeletePolitical dynasties are bad. Ones rooted in Massachusetts (oh look what state GHW Bush was born in) seem to be the worst of the worst.
Agreed. I am not into dynasties. One Trump is enough, and I say that fully hoping he (Donald) runs--and wins--in 2024. We have a lot of work to do at the state level before that can happen though.
DeleteOh, and Kimberly is a home-wrecking b*tch. There. I said it.
DeleteDJr is married to awful Dem Gov Newsom ex wife?
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I don't think they're in an [adulterous] remarriage just yet, but he's hitting that.
DeleteI’m not into dynasties but for 2024, we need a sho nuff MAGA ass kicker. There are only a few out there at this point. If the election isn’t rigged, MAGA II can’t have a lukewarm candidate.
DeleteAs a side note, I'll chime in again that while "GOP candidate 2024" makes for an interesting parlor game, my main concern is defending our rights NOW - since without that, 2022 and 2024 won't matter.
DeleteWe need governors who will refuse to allow gross violations of our Constitutional rights - period. When the ridiculous "gun control" (sic) cr*p starts to drop, governors have to be able to both SAY and MAKE stick that "This cr*p is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment to the federal Constitution, and also a blatant violation of Article [Q] or our state constitution." And then see that it is NOT enforced in their jurisdiction.
We need people who will DO things like this - not careerists who will use that for posturing and auditioning for 2024...
If Trump isn't in it then it's DeSantis and whomever they think will carry the torch after.
DeleteI think DeSantis and Col. West would be awesome but they'll probably settle for Noem. She's a hottie any way, and might help with the female vote since we're playing that game now. But she's not true MAGA like DeSantis is.
Probably the best summary of things can be credited to Mark Steyn from a few years back - to the effect that if you "professionalize" high office, you get either dynastic heirs (Bush, Gore) or creepy obsessives (Clinton, Obama). That's a good way to look at it.
DeleteOne of the best-ever observations on political organization comes from Polybius, who wrote (in the second century B.C.) for a Greek audience - to try to explain to them why while the Greeks had remained mired in a world of bickering city-states, Rome had found a way out of the Greek mess and become so powerful that Greece was now controlled by Rome.
Cycles were fundamental to classical Greek metaphysics - and in Polybius' view, the Greeks had become forever trapped in the "natural" cycle of governance that comes about on its own.
While he could have started anywhere (it's a cycle), he started with the idea that when people began to have organized societies, they figured that the best way to govern was to appoint the best man among them as king and have him rule. That would work for awhile, but then the kingship would pass to bad men (either as descendants or successors), and the good kingship would degenerate into tyranny. The solution to this was to propose that rather than a single man, it would be better to have a group of good men assume government - to spread out the power... forming an aristocracy. That would work for awhile, but then the aristocrats would find it to be better-and-easier to collude among themselves for their own benefit... and the aristocracy would degenerate into an oligarchy. The solution to that would be to spread out the power completely, and govern by citizen voting - forming a democracy. However, with time, the democracy would become too emotional and factional, and degenerate into anarchy and mob rule. The solution to that was to appoint one best, strongest man to restore order and put down the mobs - making him the single ruler (the king in effect at least) again. And so the cycle was completed, and would begin again.
In Polybius' view (which he was trying to explain to his Greek audience), Rome had found a way to obviate this "natural" cycle - by creating a government (the Republic) which combined the best features of all three types of good governance (kingship, aristocracy, and democracy) into a single whole - and this is what gave Rome its stability, vitality, and endurance.
Note that these 2nd-century-B.C. observations had a very profound influence upon our Founding Fathers when they were crafting a government for the newly-minted United States of America...
I wouldn't vote for Mittens for dogcatcher.
ReplyDeleteBecause he would strap the dogs to the car roof?
DeleteBarry sez that dries out the meat.
DeleteLol
DeleteThumbs up JR
DeleteThe man will be 74 years old in a few weeks. In 2024, he will be 77. Too old for President.
ReplyDeleteNot if you're Donald Trump.
DeleteA thimble with a bad hairpiece would outpoll Romney.
ReplyDeleteApparently, the same holds true for Joe and the Ho.
DeleteThat's why they had to email so many votes in from the Forbidden City.
ROLCON
Here he is again with the ROLCON garbage.
Delete1) It's sad that people you constantly libel as frauds make a stronger case (DAILY) than you do for the cause you claim to champion.
2) Pick some new acronyms. These are as stale as your breath.
I come here for Don's excellent reporting and commentary. What I don't like to see is a couple of "Mean Girls" sniping back and forth.
Delete12% said Mike Pence and 6% said Nikki Haley.
ReplyDeleteSomebody hasn't been paying attention the last month although you're right about it being way too early.
There are still a lot of people who worship at the webbed feet of the swamp dwellers.
DeleteThe story of Israel recorded in Kings and Chronicles shows a glimpse of our leaders, good leaders following bad leaders, a back and forth. Eventually they went to bad and worse. That is how we are trending. We had Bush 1, bad, Clinton,worse, Bush 2 no improvement, but with a major distraction, Soetoro, far worse, Trump, good but impeded by the swamp creatures. Now we have Xiden the corrupt.
ReplyDeleteJunior? No please. He might be fine, but I'm against relatives of presidents becoming president. That goes for Quincy, 41/43, and Don Jr.
ReplyDeletePretty much the same for relatives becoming mayors, governors, representatives, senators, etc.
Just heard Rush Limbaugh died today. Not unexpected, but a bummer nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteEternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace.
Amen.
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DeleteAmen to that
DeleteA hat tip to, and a prayer for, Rush. He was the best host on radio for the casual listener who wasn't "into" politics because he could make this stuff interesting and relatable. If the average Political Science teacher had half of this gift we wouldn't be on the precipice of losing our republic.
ReplyDeleteI started listening to him in 1992 while saddling horses in the summer. Listened to him ever since.
Godspeed, Rush. You'll be missed.
Rush was a giant. I'm sad he's gone. I'm sad that his powerful rhetorical flourishes won't be recalled as quickly as the simple phrases of, say, Clinton. Or president Harris.
ReplyDeleteThere will be many eulogies of Rush Limbaugh, but I will turn first to someone who has written hundreds, and is positioned to be one of the best: Mark Steyn.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.steynonline.com/11078/the-indispensable-man
"The story said, "Utah Sen. Mitt Romney would pick up some votes if the 2024 Republican presidential primary election were held today, according a new national poll." Sure, he's on the radar--of the hunter-killer aircraft. AND the flak guns...
ReplyDeleteWe're all gonna miss Rush.
Not a big fan of political dynasties. We've had too many as it is.
ReplyDeleteThat said, the President and Vice President can't come from the same state (12th Amendment) Where does Don Jr live?
Didn't ask me. Kristi Noem first choice for standing on the side of freedom.
ReplyDeletePence got 12% OMG .
ReplyDeleteMike Pence, Water Boy for the Deep State, Part Two
By Kelleigh Nelson|February 16th, 2021
https://newswithviews.com/mike-pence-water-boy-for-the-deep-state-part-two/
FUNNY THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE IS RON DESANTIS, POLITICO IS SCARED
ReplyDeleteDeSantis should have made the list at, or near the top. Apparently he doesn't yet have name recognition, but I believe he will, and he will keep rising.
ReplyDeleteThe Politico poll had a list of names to choose from. DeSantis was not on the list. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/16/poll-excludes-ron-desantis-rising-gop-force-from-2024-presidential-survey/
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ReplyDeleteThe panhandler down the block outpolls Romney.
ReplyDeleteCandace Owens considering running
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