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Monday, January 04, 2021

Libs worry about losing Hispanic vote

The New Yorker is alarmed by the renewed support for Republicans among Hispanic voters. President Donald John Trump received 32% of the Hispanic vote -- 5 points more than Romney's 27%.

The frightening thing for Democrats is Donald Trump did this without being Democrat Lite. Alfonso Aguilar, a Bush 43 alumnus, explained the president's appeal to the New Yorker: true inclusion.

Aguilar said, "You’re including me because you’re seeing me as an American—you’re not seeing me as a Hispanic that’s separate. Democrats just don’t understand this, because they follow the modern theories of all multiculturalism. Well, to me, that’s not true inclusion—that’s separating people. That’s marginalizing people. I think President Trump made them feel like part of America."

Bingo.

People don't come to America to be what they were. They come here to be Americans.

Make no mistake, Hispanics and other ethnic groups maintain their cultural identity. And unlike Italians, Poles, and other immigrants from European nations, Hispanics continue to speak Spanish.

Democrats are learning that unlike black people, Hispanics are not a monolithic group. They are Cubans, Puerto Ricans, et al. And Chicanos in California are distinct from Tex-Mex people. Indeed, when Chico and the Man aired in the 1970s, Chicanos complained that the actor spoke and acted like as Puerto Rican, which Freddie Prinze was. And Sofia Vergara complained that her character on Modern Family was originally written as a Mexican, not a Colombian, which is where she was born.

Donald Trump realized those distinctions. 

And churches matter. While Democrats succeeded in using black churches to preach their gospel, most Hispanics are Catholic with some, like Ted Cruz, becoming evangelical Christians.

The New Yorker reported, "To explain Trump’s appeal, Aguilar also pointed to his Administration’s support for religious liberty and the right to life. From early on in his Presidency, Trump made inroads with evangelical leaders, and during his four years in office he talked about the right to life, school choice, and prayer in schools. At a church in Miami, Trump said, 'America was not built by religion-hating socialists” but, rather, “by churchgoing, God-worshiping, freedom-loving patriots.' There were also his Supreme Court picks, including, most recently, Amy Coney Barrett."

None of President Trump's picks were Hispanic, but all appealed to a sizeable portion of Hispanic voters.

That is a huge lesson for Republicans.

To be sure, Democrats still own the Hispanic vote as Democrats received twice as many votes from people whose ancestry is from the 20 or so Latin American countries.

Pandering works.

Or is that in the past tense?

The New Yorker reported, "It’s not clear how or whether Democrats will combat the momentum felt by Latino Republicans. For some of them, acknowledging Trump’s greater share of the Latino vote amounts to blaming Latinos for the close election, as though they failed to fulfill a promise. Acknowledging the shift could also have consequences for how Democrats think about their coalition, what kind of investments they should make in Latino communities going forward, and what their platform should be on immigration, education, health care, and many other issues.

"In the White House, Joe Biden will have the opportunity to show Latinos that they’re important to the Democratic coalition. First, though, Democrats will have to acknowledge that a shift did, in fact, take place. Carlos Odio, of the progressive Latino firm Equis Research, told me that it makes Latino Democrats uncomfortable to consider the move by some Latinos toward Trump, because 'if you view Donald Trump as being the raging racist that he is, the guy who put Stephen Miller in charge of our immigration system, then people say, Well, shouldn’t it be Latinos who fight back, who lead the charge?' Odio said that, in upcoming elections, he hopes Latinos will get 'the white working-class treatment.' He added, 'I don’t need a Latino Hillbilly Elegy—we can pass on that part. But I think the rest of it would be great to see.' "

It never occurs to Democrats that many Hispanics want to end illegal immigration. MS-13 targets law-abiding Hispanics who are here legally.

And it never occurs to Democrats that Hispanics are individuals.

President Trump showed how to win over the majority of Hispanic voters, not just 32%.

Republicans can build on that, but history shows they won't.

46 comments:

  1. The GOPe >spit< has shown time and time again that they can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They won't learn anything, either on purpose or because they are a bunch of dumb asses.

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    1. Or they enjoy getting buttf@cked by democrats.

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    2. When you understand Uniparty, all actions by the GOPe become clearer.

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    3. As I keep saying, the GOP is the GO Along To Get Along Party and get along with the Dems.

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    4. ...either on purpose and/or because they are a bunch of dumb asses. [not mutually exclusive causes]

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    5. Why does NOBODY seem to get it about the GOP — its the money for them! Have you notice that we love talking about the failures of the Democrats, but not a peep about the Billions of dollars held hostage in CCP China? The silence is deafening. The GOP isnt stupid or spineless, they’re busy making money, folks, having given up the country to the extreme left, by decree no less, in this recent fraudulent mail-in ballot debacle.

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  2. It’s a DAMN SHAME that of all the immigrant/people groups in this country, BLACKS have been most resistant to assimilating. They have willfully refused to free their minds and instead have insisted on a separate culture...which as far as I can tell consists of never being on time, out of wedlock pregnancies, fatherless children, and a proclivity for violence as THE solution. That lifestyle ain’t welcome here, boys, and honestly it never was. Here comes that race war your “leaders” have been begging for. Y’all ready?

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    1. Not quite true. Blacks were excluded from much of America for a century after the Civil War. Not making excuses, it's a fact.

      And the black family was institutionally stronger than the white family. Easily verified.

      The Rs owned the black vote until LBJ institutionalized welfare and the media started pushing all the tropes about black anger, etc.

      Trump doubled much likely a great deal more) his share of the black vote this time around because the younger generation has come to realize the Demos promise of welfare paradise really is just a welfare plantation.

      The "never being on time, out of wedlock pregnancies, fatherless children, and a proclivity for violence as THE solution" is something that's only 50 years old. 1 or 2 generations tried it, and it looks like black people realize it's not working.

      This is a generational thing. It took a generation for the Demos to screw blacks and it's probably going to take a generation for blacks to see the light.

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    2. Yes Ed. The Candace Owens of the US will drive that change. Will votes ever count again? If so, the black vote will leave the democrats and go to Trump-like candidates.

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    3. I’m not optimistic, guys...

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    4. I think you have not viewed the Democratic Party's coalition through a non - MSM propoganda lens. Yet when the Dems "rainbow coalition" should have pulled into into high gear from the 1990s on, it was the Republicans who held power in the majority of the Congresses. From 2000 to 2016 the Dems lost more then 1,000 elected positions, along with control so some 3/4 of the nation's governorships. Part of the Dems failure is a misreading of demographic trends. In the American South, Midwest, and Northeast, the racial breakdown is opposite of CA. Yes, America is becoming ethnically diverse but outside of CA it's at a snails pace. It's worst then it sounds for the Dems. The most politically liberal region, the Northeast, is strongly majority-white and will remain so into the 21st century. It is also a part of our country aging rapidly. Retirees tend to be far more socially conservative than liberal. Ever hear of the "get off my lawn" from seniors. Therefore, in the 2020s and 2030s the Northeast will slide into retirement and a growing slice of the Dems "liberal" base will age into something more populist and conservative. Texas is more representative of CA diversity yet it still votes conservative. Why, because once the state's Mexican Americans become second generation, they reliably vote Republican. A founding member of the Dems coalition switched sides (2016) - the unions - and voted for Trump.
      I have a lot more faith that the Dems rainbow strategy is just propoganda. Blacks have a different definition of Civil Rights vs. Gays. Latinos are not a homogenic people. The hail from different countries with different experiences. Single women once successful do not like the tax man to take their money. They are economically conservative.

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    5. Minoriteeism is a cancer. Its keeps the hyphens from ever becoming full fledge Americans. As an American with a Mexican born PaPa I never considered my self a mexican -hyphen- American...
      Just American thanks.

      Its late...
      Its time...

      CALLING FOR A REVOLUTION
      https://rumble.com/vbmg3x-calling-for-a-revolution-poker-face.html

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  3. They better worry about their families dying in a bloody civil war in response to their fascism.

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  4. All nice to know. However with the current massive voter fraud perfected by democrats nationwide, how can any future election even be considered "fair"? All voters realize our votes have been/will continue to be stolen including tomorrow in GA senate race, unless and until it is rooted out and people go to jail. Corrupt governors and sec of states in Dem run cities will NOT be worried about the hispanic vote....they will just cheat more efficiently. Forget future president elections if this is not fixed NOW, and trump regains what is rightfully his, this month.

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    1. Right. The share of Hispanic votes will be determined by computer algorithms going forward, dialed in as needed to ensure democrat "victory" while still making the masses think elections still matter.

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    2. On the same page as you, Navy Bubblehead. If this works, they will keep doing it and expanding it.

      As noted earlier today, they obviously planned this with care and well in advance - since they obviously targeted AZ and GA... because they knew in advance that the state (GOP) leadership was compromised; compromised *how* we don't know (yet), but it's obvious that they (AZ, GA leadership) are compromised, and the left knew this in advance.

      And keep in mind, as per a comment yesterday, that not only are they marxists (with all the "historic inevitability" woo-hah). They are also stalinists. And if they get away with this, their attitude will clearly be, "We stole this in broad daylight right in front of you people. You could have done something about it, but did nothing. You are weak and beneath our contempt. And you are going to deserve every awful thing that we are about to start raining down on your empty, useless heads."

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    3. If our vote truly mattered they wouldn't let us do it

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    4. DR: Agreed, Navy B**.

      BTW, get ahold of a hardcover copy of "Air Raid: Pearl Harbor," Naval Institute Press (edited by Paul Stillwell 1981), by far the best book on Pearl Harbor I've ever seen, and worthy of far more praise than that narrow designation implies.

      TNY: " 'There were also his Supreme Court picks, including, most recently, Amy Coney Barrett.' "

      With "friends" like Amy Barrett, who needs enemies?

      Another wolf in sheep's clothing, just like Boris Johnson (UK).

      Good thing, Mr. Surber, that you quoted the article at length; the link is to an ideological Iron Curtain pay site.

      Not that I'd ever want to be able to muck my shoes up, --- much less pay for the privilege of doing that --- in that intellectual Superfund* wasteland, the New Yorker magazine.

      How are their stars Jeffrey Toobin (Brooklyn, Zoom-D.) and Danny Shanahan (Rhinebovine, NY) doin' lately, hmm?

      *"Superfund sites are polluted locations in the United States requiring a long-term response to clean up hazardous material contaminations. They were designated under the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act (CERCLA) of 1980."

      What a coincidence. 1980 was the year that I started working at what is now another moral Superfund site, the hopelessly contaminated Love Canal of the mainstream/deep state media, NBC.

      Ironically, when I went to Google to check the spelling of Shanahan's last name, the article about his being arrested in Rhinebeck New York that I had arbitrarily opened was written / posted by none other than NBC --- home of the immortally infamous MATT LAUER!

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  5. All of it spot on! We can only hope there is no GOP going forward. But the Dems won't let that happen, either. It's ironic that the most valuable players on the Dem team are the establishment Republicans. Think about it: Pelosi? Schumer? Biden? Clinton? Can any rank and file Democrat (hispanic or otherwise) possibly identify with these people? Of course not. So they rely on Romney, Ryan, Rubio (and a bunch of other folks whose only claim to an "R" is in the spelling of their name) to act as the make-believe opposition. The Uni-party is alive and well. Glad some of their captive (ie, slavish) voters woke up last year.

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    1. LOL! I think you should suggest it to him.

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    2. It has played out as I long suspected it would:

      Trump was their one truly inspirational, significant egg in the "Republican" basket.

      No one else has his fire and the courage of his convictions, with the exception of Ted Cruz (that's another story).

      When Trump is replaced by anyone else, the party's momentum and energy vanishes --- and simultaneously, so do the Trump voters, who, generally speaking, are bored to death by Trump's palsied surrogates.

      Classic example: Rubio in Florida at a Trump rally in very late October 2020.

      A worse "warm-up" speaker in the country cannot be found. His old platitudes and feeble orations gushed forth, with the result being his audience getting restless.

      "GET THIS GUY OFF THE STAGE!" was their obvious non-verbal message.

      Fortunately, Rubio took the hint and wound it up quickly.

      That is, I recall that he did. Maybe he put me to sleep and when I woke up 20 minutes later, he was still there, croaking away.

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    3. P.S. Two more duds are those two ho-hums trying to keep their Senate seats. I cringe to think of their oncoming fate less than 24 hours from now when millions of more bogus "voters" go to the GA polls. From here, 100 Abrams Tanks in the Senate is the inevitable future of our country.

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  6. Republicans can build on that, but history shows they won't

    Whigs mightn't, but Rs will.

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  7. Someday I hope to lead the Senate, sell the Vice-Presidency or serve on the Intel Committee.

    But first I need a Chinese girlfriend.

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    1. Be Careful of What You Wish For: Considering how many spam offers we get, you could get an entire harum of them to be designated sex workers in every major city in America for less than $75.00. Be a sport. Tip liberally.

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  8. A friend of Eric Swalwell?????

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    1. Swalwell always enjoys the "Cream of Sum Yung Gai"

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    2. Right you are. He is a connoisseur of fine Thai cuisine.

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  9. “To be sure, Democrats still own the Hispanic vote.” And if the 2020 election fraud stands, they always will. Donald Trump may have gotten 32% of the Hispanic vote, but that was easily overtaken by the 120% of the Hispanic vote cast for Biden.

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    1. Until you stop the invasion you'll never win a majority of this group. See California for more details.

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  10. "People don't come to America to be what they were. They come here to be Americans."


    Ehhh! Sorry, Hans, wrong guess.

    Having grown up in the deepest of deep South Texas your assertion here couldn't be more wrong compared to reality. Mexicans are programmed to think of the entire Southwest from Texas to California as Mexican territory, aka Aztlán.

    They are taught in their schools that anywhere a Mexican lives is part of Mexico.

    I'll never forget way back over forty years ago, when I was in First Grade in a nice Rio Grande Valley elementary school, one of my Mexican National classmates (who claimed, as they all did, that he lived in "the labor camp") told me in no uncertain terms, "You gringos stole Texas from us and now we're gonna take it back."

    Well, they got California. Texas is not far behind. And don't let one rural County down here that voted for Trump by a couple hundred votes fool you. This area is solid blue Demonrat and it will only spread with time north.

    If the flood of immigration--both legal and illegal--is not stopped then assimilation will fail and we will be an appendage of Mexico.

    You really have no idea what you're talking about. This area is no longer recognizable as the United States.
    The situation is dire, and has been for decades, but keep pretending it's not.

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    1. Agreed! I lived in south Texas in the mid to late 80s and this was true then. I can only imagine what Texas looks like today.

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  11. Kinda agree with you BJ. I ran some construction companies in Florida and met many people from Mexico. I would say 90% of them came here for one reason...Money! I will say a lot of them were illegal, but most all of them sent a substantial amount of their paycheck back to Mexico. They had no allegiance to the USA. Everything they followed had to do with Mexico. Don't get me wrong, they were hard working, family oriented, overall good people. But they were not here to be Americans.

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    1. Right you are.

      They come from a culture that is really nothing like ours. They can become Americanized and then they are fine, but that takes time and really doesn't happen when they remain in balkanized enclaves.

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  12. I find the "Hispanics are natural Republicans" trope really getting tiresome. It may be true that they don't vote for unlimited immigration (which, the Dems won't admit, is not in their interests), but they do believe strongly in big government and accompanying handouts.

    The real reason they are becoming attracted to the GOP is not admitted by the GOP either: there simply isn't enough room in the Dem party for both them and the blacks, nor are there enough goodies to go around for both groups. The Dems chose their sides, but they chose wrong, because there are more Hispanics than blacks now, and their margin is growing.

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    1. Bingo on your first paragraph. Spot on.

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    2. "Trope" has become a tiresome one-word trope (cliche) in itself. Consider replacing.

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    3. Would you prefer "meme" instead? You tell me what I should use, since you seem to be more concerned with the term I use to describe a leftwing idea (or is "idea" tiresome too?) than the idea itself.

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  13. I have noted before, many blacks, most Hispanics of every flavor and southern whites hate absolutely hate pussies. Biden is a pussy. Trump isn’t. It will take generations to swing the black vote back to where it was and it will only happen if Republicans show courage.

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  14. Sun-downing Joe Biden compared Hispanic and Black voters:

    “By the way, what you all know but most people don’t know, unlike the African-American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things,”

    To my pasty, blue eyed, cis-gendered misanthropic ears that sounded like a slight to the Black community.

    But what do I know, I'm "melanin impaired" and lack the requisite "identity credentials" to comment on such issues.

    It's so bad that I couldn't comprehend the "logic" that provoked the toppling of Frederick Douglass statues in response to the George Floyd incident.

    This whole "my truth" and "your truth" perspective has sure got me befuddled.

    Perhaps that's the point?



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    1. It is the whole point. When truth becomes personal rather than absolute it ceases to be truth. It's not even a decent opinion any more. Until we rediscover what truth is, we are on the road to destruction both as a nation and as individuals.

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  15. Don, “Republicans won’t” build on President Trump’s success with Latinos because the vast majority of Republican politicians are elitist snob A-holes more comfortable at their elite country club than with average blue and white collar Americans.

    They are horrible.

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