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Tuesday, June 23, 2020

Trump hits high tech in the wallet



All I know about bears is you don't poke them.

That puts me ahead of Jack Dorsey and Zuckerberg. They run Twitter and Facebook, respectively, and they have been poking at Donald John Trump throughout his presidency.

Monday, he didn't poke them back. He sucker punched them in the gut.

The New York Times reported, "President Trump on Monday temporarily suspended new work visas and barred hundreds of thousands of foreigners from seeking employment in the United States, part of a broad effort to limit the entry of immigrants into the country.

"In a sweeping order, which will be in place at least until the end of the year, Mr. Trump blocked visas for a wide variety of jobs, including those for computer programmers and other skilled workers who enter the country under the H-1B visa, as well as those for seasonal workers in the hospitality industry, students on work-study summer programs and au pairs who arrive under other auspices."

Au pairs?

He is not concerned about au pairs, in fact, his mother came here from Scotland as a maid.

Nope, it is those computer geeks that President Trump has targeted. 15% of Facebook's staff is here on a work visa. The cost of labor just rose for Facebook.

The U.S. In Name Only Chamber of Commerce is outraged.

Its CEO, Thomas J. Donohue, whined, "Putting up a ‘not welcome’ sign for engineers, executives, IT experts, doctors, nurses and other workers won’t help our country, it will hold us back. Restrictive changes to our nation’s immigration system will push investment and economic activity abroad, slow growth and reduce job creation."

As the chamber told workers when Commerce companies moved their factories to Red China: Free Market.

Newsweek reported, "Google, Apple, Microsoft Leaders Condemn Trump Admin's H1-B Visa Ban."

Apple CEO Tim Cook said, "Like Apple, this nation of immigrants has always found strength in our diversity, and hope in the enduring promise of the American Dream. There is no new prosperity without both. Deeply disappointed by this proclamation."

Considering how much of his product is made by slaves in Red China, Cook has a lot of nerve mentioning the American Dream.

Brad Smith, president of Microsoft, said, "Now is not the time to cut our nation off from the world's talent or create uncertainty and anxiety. Immigrants play a vital role at our company and support our country's critical infrastructure. They are contributing to this country at a time when we need them most."

By vital role, he means cheap labor.

President Trump was brilliant in his order, writing, "Under the extraordinary circumstances of the economic contraction resulting from the covid-19 outbreak, certain non-immigrant visa programs authorizing such employment pose an unusual threat to the employment of American workers."

I want the president to do student visas next, especially the ones from Red China. This would cut a major revenue stream for our Ivy League indoctrination camps. Why Harvard might have to tap into its endowment fund, which has more money than Scrooge McDuck's swimming pool.

Big tech poked the bear, and has now learned just how big his claw is.

41 comments:

  1. We absolutely need to get rid of the Chinese students. Several months ago I was in Aggieville at Popeye's. In the parking lot next door was a student flying a Chinese flag. That is highly offensive to me. This was just after President Trump shut down flights from China.

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    1. This is happening in Australia, but not quite the way you'd expect. China is taking the initiative, warning its students to get out of this awfully racist country.
      The universities are freaking out. This, after they've been telling their students Chinese and otherwise for years that Australia is an awfully racist country.
      It went around, and it came around.

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  2. I know a young Chinese woman goes to our church.she works a the local Hospital. She is fro Wuhan. she hasn't heard from her Parents for months. She has no idea if they are alive, dead, or spare parts for Democrats. she likely will stay here as she has applied for citizenship.
    But anyone who is connected to the Chicom regime' gone .Out
    Don't let the door hit you in the arse.
    Donahue needs to spend time in a chicom gulag.

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  3. Mr. Surber,
    As you've so wisely said before,
    Never Bet Against President Donald J. Trump.
    Since before his election I've maintained that he is engaging in 3 and 4 dimensional chess against a cadre of children playing tiddledywinks.

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    1. Amen. or Backgammon against twister.

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    2. Don't punch DJT. He will hit you back twice as hard. How many times does this have to be demonstrated to them LOL?

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  4. Last year my job was given to a H1-B. The entire US Domestic staff (IT) was replaced by H1-B or staff in India/Mexico. I was lucky that I was able to find a position working with customers that require US citizens to work the account. But I was almost let go.

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  5. Don: Thanks very much for this one. These sprawling "big tech" jerks just want cheap labor. Ever the intention...go back in time. Cook's "strength in diversity" is a lie for "profits from cheap labor. Not that there's anything wrong for some Americans to get into the workforce by "working cheap." I have certainly done that in my years.

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  6. I wonder if Unknown above is here on a student visa? Just wondering..

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  7. Half of the staff at my current gig are Indians. There are plenty of Americans that could the jobs, but H1-B abuse has driven down available jobs and wages in IT for decades now.

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    1. If you'll allow me, I would offer an alternative. About 35 years ago, I served as an unpaid officer in a professional organization. One evening at the bar after a meeting, I made a comment to a high-ranking employee of Motorola regarding Christmas break. He said they didn't pay much attention to Christmas. I kidded him about employing heathens, but he replied seriously that about half of his engineers were Indians of varying religious beliefs. I got a tad huffy and demanded to know why he was hiring foreigners instead of Americans. He told me when American universities began turning out graduates with engineering degrees who could actually DO the work, he'd happily hire them.

      My daughter graduated with a degree in History, then got her MS in Computer Science. As she said, go to any college catalog and review the degree programs. We have children graduating from college with four year degrees in Africa Lesbian Studies. They can't even read at a fourth grade level, they can't write a coherent sentence or balance a check book, but they do have $150,000 in student loan debt and an attitude that the USA owes anything they want because they've been taught they're so special.

      I don't agree with importing chip foreign labor, but our own education system will need to start EDUCATING rather than INDOCTRINATING.

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    2. So why would current employers change unless they were forced to. Students are smart enough to grasp that they can't get a good job with a bad education. If they aren't, they will soon find out and have to find a way to train themselves so they are worth hiring.

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    3. My son-in-law was in high-tech. He got replaced by foreigners. The companies actually preferred the Indians, as they didn't complain about the wages, and would kick-back part of their pay to the Indian guy who managed those workers.
      No, they were not - generally - more competent or with a better work ethic. They wee just cheaper and with fewer labor issues (non-unionized). As contract employees, they were easy to lay off when the inevitable business contractions occurred.

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  8. Anyway, considering how they're always banging on about how terrible America is, and how it was founded on racism, and how the police just go around hassling and killing non-WASPS with impunity, why they should be happy that the poor dear virtuous foreigners are being kept out of such a hellhole.

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  9. I think the key is not necessarily end H1b, but to charge for them. Say it is $100/mo increasing by $100/mo until it gets to $4k/mo. Then instead of having a lottery to give them away, have an auction to sell the rights starting at $50k/visa. If they need foreign talent because they can't get it in America, that is a modest cost. But it would gut the using h1bs to undercut American labor.

    If they actually need foreign talent, they should be willing to pay to get it. I would also suggest having all visa holders and their employers pay social security taxes into the trust fund, without any claims upon the system. A subsidy to SS.

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  10. The great fraud of H1B (and L1) visas is the claim that qualified workers cannot be found and that jobs must be posted first to prove the need. If jobs are posted, they are in obscure rooms inside of corporations where they cannot be found by job seekers. There are plenty of qualified workers.

    What good does it do for foreign companies to operate here if they import their own workers. There is no need for Indian and Chinese firms here where American firms can do the work.

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  11. Please correct the article. Chamber of Commerce should read Chamber of Horrors.

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  12. Ever try to get IT help from someone who’s version of English isn’t understandable? My final corporate job hired Indian IT workers under H1-B by the bus load. Every morning they’d traipse in from the bus stop. Don’t forget they’re very compliant because if they cross “The Man” back to the bad air of Mumbai they go.

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  13. If Big Tech and American business invested as much money in our schools to prepare students for the jobs in industry as they spend on lobbyist, and lawyers finding loopholes,schools would be flooded with money. And just might begin to produce educated, productive citizens prepared with skills for success. Alas they are to busy staying in the left lane screwing up the flow of traffic with their virtue signal stuck on.

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    1. "staying in the left lane screwing up the flow of traffic with their virtue signal stuck on"

      Great line. I'm taking it as an "unplanned donation"!

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    2. What Big Tech wants is disposable cheap labor. They can hardly fire an American employee whenever a project is finished, meaning they have to pay "idle" employees wages and benefits. H1B employees are sent home whenever the project is finished. E.g. a Google manager took her maternity leave. All her underlings were layoff and sent back to India. Not an extra dime was spent on these poor souls. They are not eligible for unemployment benefits.

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    3. I always hoped when DJT cut the corporate tax rate for corporations to bring the money home, that there would be some emphasis on educating and training Americans to perform the high tech jobs they wanted filled. Has anyone heard of these corps. offering sabbaticals to there employees to go out and teach in our schools?

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  14. The President is looking out for us. Big tech needs to either play fair or lose. The best thing is for them to lose. None of these people are needed.
    MAGA

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  15. Funny, their argument is Trump will slow down jobs creation.

    Methinks jobs are created for Americans, not created for foreigners. What Big Tech wants is to import cheap labor of workers who make less than minimum wage and will be sent home when the project is over. These imported workers will not get wage increase or other benefits. In fact, in Big Tech, workers, American and foreign, are not getting vacations off unless approved by their managers.

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  16. Sorry Sports Fans but most of what you are commenting on is BS Psyop news. Look for real news which you were never taught in government schools. It is the only to realize between the truth and fiction.

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    1. Spoken like a true leftist, comrade.....

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    2. You really have no clue to what is truth. You are really part of the present problem with the Marxists that exist to bring down the U.S.

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    3. Do you realist that we now know who you are and just a Whimper will be heard.

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  17. One point must be corrected. The big Silicon Valley firms aren't looking for cheap labor - those Indian and Chinese programmers aren't cheap to hire. What Big Tech wants is bound labor: programmers who can't change jobs if a rival firm offers them a better deal. The H1-B visa is a modern version of indenture, and the US government never should have allowed it.

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    1. You are correct, sir. This is the right answer. It's not about wages; it's about control. I've said that same line myself: The H1B via program is indentured servitude.

      The US Chamber of Commerce is upset. I expect Mittens and the corporate surrender wing of the Republican Party have the vapors. That tells me this is the right thing to do.
      -TK

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    2. Control is part of it but it is also wages. I have been a contractor in IT for over 8 years (born and raised in the people's republic of mass) and hope to work another 4-6 before retiring. I get recruited by many firms but the Indian based firms offer such low rates, I don't even open the emails. The rates I'm getting now are less than I received when I started. Depending on how long this lasts, I might not benefit much from this decision but I hope it helps others like me.

      regbma in ma

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    3. As I used to lament to my tech worker friends when they'd be complaining about the H1-BeGone situation, "Boys, it's cowboys and indians -- all over again."

      Michael, you are absolutely correct. And there is one more, very often overlooked consideration: Microsoft, Google, FaceBook, Amazon, Twitter, et al -- their objective is to de-Americanize these companies. They have succeeded. Less than 20 years ago, Microsoft was an *American* company, run by and staffed by Americans. What was the problem then, you ask? *Loyalty*. Americans would be loyal to America. Americans would resist sharing latest AI technology with China's government. American software engineers would refuse to write code that spies on customers. Chinese and Indians? They just say, yes sir! They're *obedient*. Today, as a white male in your 50s, you walk down the halls in a Microsoft building getting dirty looks from women in burkas and spend your time being bossed about by very entitled (and they know it) Brahmin caste broads and arrogant Chinese chicks. Think I sound bitter or even racist? You're wrong. I'm proud of myself for even being able to survive in such a hostile industry. Believe me when I say these companies are beyond treasonous. We're going to find out how treasonous in Trump's second term. In the meantime, I celebrate this move by the president; our wages will go up and so will our job security. Again, America has been utterly betrayed by Microsoft, Google, et al. Don't believe for a minute there is some shortage of qualified Americans to do these jobs; quite the opposite is true. And don't even get me started on what the H1-BeGones have done to the price of houses in these areas (Seattle, Silicon Valley); you're not in a local house market. You are in an INTERNATIONAL house market, competing with Indian and Chinese families all pooling their money to buy the house you can no longer afford. Thailand has it right; no foreigner is allowed to buy property there.

      MAGA then KAGA, then MAGA 'til the cows come home. You know - the cows we turn into steaks. Because we're Cowboys, dammit.

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  18. For the most comprehensive assessment of H-1B issues, written by a U of Cal prof who KNOWS this field, see: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/h1b.html

    Yes, it's "chained", not necessarily "cheap." But in fact, the imports are NOT 'smarter' than US grads, nor are they 'more inventive;' they are comparable--at best--because the Bell Curve is an Iron Rule.

    However, the Intels/Microsofts (and all sorts of other places including Kohl's, the State of Wisconsin, Disney, etc.) can write job descriptions which compel hiring ONLY H1-B's. Those descriptions are horse-hockey, but the Gummint believes them.

    One more thing: the imports ARE cheaper by at least 7.5%--the SS tax not required....

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  19. Mandatory reports to any tech user of data collected, who it was sold to and how much was paid. Every week.

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  20. Wonder who Disneyland will now use for their techs? IT was just last year that DW fired all their American Citizen techs and replaced them with H1B visa techs.

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  21. The companies keep using the word immigrant, while referring to visas that are non-immigrant...

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  22. There are a lot of US citizens out of work now. Try hiring a few of them.

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  23. I believe that two things need to happen next; 1. the blocking of the Chinese Student VISAs, followed by the other countries. It would wipe out the influx of money to the Liberal Indoctrination Centers, making then require them to TEACH the truth of USA History and Constitution if they want students using Federally Backed Funds, of which would be required to be loaned at a rate .05% above prime and no Interest accrues until they successfully complete and graduate College.
    2. Find a group of Attorneys willing to files a Class Action Suit against these Social Media Companies; Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Nextdoor, etc... for violation of our Constitutional Rights for editing or deleting our comments on their forums.
    3. Class Action Lawsuit for all the US Citizens qualified for these positions that Apple, Microsoft, etc..... are bringing Immigrants in to do the job in order to save money or Offshoring Production Positions in order to save money.

    Maybe then these Companies would appreciate our Country more, since they would be finding that they wouldn't be able to speak up freely if they keep wanting to take away the speech of others, it will come back on them also.

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