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Thursday, October 17, 2019

Critics not Syria-ous



UPDATE: The "war" is over. See update at bottom.

ORIGINAL POST: The House voted 354-60 to condemn President Donald John Trump's decision not to get involved in a dispute between Turkey and Syria. If members were Syria-ous, they would have voted to declare war. Put up or shut up.

But 2 1/2 years earlier, these chicken hawks in Washington accused President Donald John Trump of trying to start World War III in Syria.

On April 7, 2017, President Donald John Trump ordered 59 cruise missiles to wipe out the air base from which the Assad government had launched a chemical warfare attack on Khan Sheikhun. He was dining with Chairman Xi at Mar-a-Lago at the time.

USA Today accused the president of risking World War III.

Jessica Estepa, then an editor in its Washington bureau, wrote, "Is this the start of World War III? That's what people are worried about."

The people she cited were Magneto's Fear, Penguin, Deplorable Winner, and other intellectual luminaries on Twitter.

Her story said, "Let's take a step back for a moment. World War I began in 1914, following the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire. A month-long diplomatic crisis ensued, eventually leading to the empire declaring war on Serbia."

Serbia sounds just like Syria, so I can see the connection.

Now USA Today is so pumped up about having American soldiers die in Syria that it is deliberately putting words in the presidents mouth to bash him.

It alleged, "President Donald Trump, facing bipartisan condemnation over Turkey's invasion of Syria, defended his handling of the matter Wednesday as 'strategically brilliant' and downplayed the U.S. alliance with the Kurds, who are 'not angels,' he said.

"'It's not our problem,' Trump said in the Oval Office as Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo prepared to travel to Turkey to try to negotiate a cease-fire and avoid a humanitarian crisis on the Syrian border."

Fake News.

The president said, "They have a problem at the border; it's not our border."

But the American press is the fog machine when it comes to the fog of war. ABC took footage off You Tube from a Kentucky training exercise, labeled it "Slaughter In Syria," and reported it as news. Who needs Baghdad Bob when you have George Stephanopoulos running the show?

The president has a plan in Syria called let-them-figure-it-out. The USA is in a no win situation there. Maybe if we back off, Russia will. Who knows?

We do know that his promise of economic sanctions will keep Erdogan in check.

President Trump has the U.S. military and tariffs at his disposal. When he uses the latter, Washington howls. When he doesn't use the former, Washington howls even louder.

It's as if they want wars and the exportation of jobs.

UPDATE:
President Trump once again proved the elitist slobs and snobs dead wrong.

I'll have more at 6. Now for a topdown drive to Walmart.

55 comments:

  1. Gotta support the communist section of the Kurdish rebels at all costs...
    We don't need to be there. They are Russia's and Syria's problem. We need to boot Turkey out of NATO..

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  2. Dems are pro-war and anti-military. A winning combination!

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  3. Didn't show the Knob Creek daytime videos of the guys in the Huey using the mini-gun on the cars and whatnot. Definitely some fun stuff. Don't hear much from DC/NY reporters showing how law-abiding Americans enjoy their 2A RIGHTS in the hollows of TN & KY. Like Hickcock45 with his 2A pumpkin carving videos.

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  4. Trump stabbed the Kurds in the back.

    The beneficiaries are ISIS, Russia, Iran, and Turkey.

    Heckuva job Trumpie. I see the turd polishers are busy trying their best.

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    1. Which Kurds. The terrorist PKK who have killed over 3000 Turks over the past several years and/or the Terrorist YPG. Both declared terrorists by the US, EU and Turkey. Does no appear the Turks are attacking the Iraqi Turks. Are they attacking the The Syrian Democratic Forces [SDF] which is an alliance of Kurdish, Syrian Arab and Christian Assyrian and Turkmen militias established with the US during the Syrian War to fight against the Islamic State. The media doesn't tell us that; nor do you.

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    2. Correction: Does not appear the Turks are attacking the Iraqi Kurds

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    3. Our MAGA President Trump poked the Kurds in their ass cracks.

      The residual recipients of said ass crack poking are isis, iran, and turkey, moolies all, and, reluctantly, russia, if russia ventures into that quicksand pit of moolie madness.

      Heckuva job our MAGA President Trump is doing!!! I see the turd polishers are busy trying their best to polish their many turdlings, aka, democrat, rino swamp buttheads.

      Gonna need a lot more spittle to put a shine on them wittle wascals!!!

      Get to spittin', chicommie kitten!!!

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  5. Stop talking and be still. You don't want to get polish in your eyes.

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  6. Surber: "The press tells us we need to work with allies to defeat the Islamic State. That is what President Trump is doing."
    Great, then after 11,000 of those allies give their lives to defeat ISIS, you abandon them to be slaughtered and dislocated by its bully neighbor all the while ISIS prisoners are escaping their captivity. And for those dozen or so U.S. servicemen killed during this particular operation, President Whorelover spits on their grave just like did it to countless U.S. fallen soldiers in Europe by refusing to attend a major commemoration over a little rain and blew off the wreath laying ceremony at Arlington (again) on Memorial Day. Not to be out done, his VA feeble budget proposal is drawing outcries from every respectable VA organization.

    "Maybe if we back off, Russia will." Pathetic Surber. Russia is already moving in to the areas abandoned by the U.S. to claim territory for its puppet Assad.
    So much for all you neo-con, chicken-hawk, war-loving Rs who have said for years, "freedom is not always free"
    Trump after ISIS was driven from northern Syria (with the blood of 11,000 Kurds): "ISIS has been defeated."

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    1. One thing Russia's broke, we're not.Trump aims to keep it that way..
      BTW where do you get your information?

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    2. Fine. Let the Russians enjoy the Middle East quagmire. "Those are nice military bases you have there in Syria, Mr. Putin. It would be a shame if something terrible happened to them."
      NB

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    3. Douglas. What does "Russia's broke" mean in this situation? What information to you wish to know. Unlike you, I don't rely solely on Surber for information.

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    4. Noonsense, don't follow the news much, do you? Russia's economy-oil dependent is not good at all due to low oil and gas prices.They can't afford a major war. They barley got the ancient carrier to the med.
      they got some impressive arms, but not enough or well trained troops.

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    5. Read “The Defeat of Kurdistan Maoists”
      https://newrightnetwork.com/2019/10/defeat-kurdistan-maoist.html/

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    6. The dda, dummie democrat advocate, once again stimulates itself.

      Like a tomcat licking it's sack, over and over and over and over, for hours, it never quite gets it's sack satifyingly licked.

      This is what it does.

      This is all that it does.

      Licky Licky Licky!!!


      So lucky is this licky sacked dda!!!

      Now do your puckerhole.

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  7. Seldom mentioned is that Turkey is a member of NATO and as such is our contractual ally. The Kurds have no such standing.

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    1. Trump to Turkey: "Stop. Don't be a fool."
      Turkey's response: "Letter went into the bin." That's a really ally there.
      The U.S. poured millions into supporting the Kurds in their frontline fight against ISIS. That's not being an "ally" to you?

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    2. The kurds got paid.

      Bigly.

      They had, and still have, their own game to play.

      They can now play their game with their moolie twerkturks, irantians and syriassians.

      Not.

      Our.

      Borders.


      Not.

      Our.

      Problem.

      And isicyst???

      A boil popped is draining.

      If it pustulates again, it will be popped again.

      MAGA

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    3. Missed the most important implication.

      Turkey is an ally as a result of an act of Congress. Therefore if Trump as CiC causes the alliance to be breached he can be impeached for that illegal act.

      Therefore Trump pulled out US troops.

      Schiff has been after a real impeachment justification for three years and doesn't have one. Trump isn't dumb enough to give him a gift like that.

      Congress should void the alliance with Turkey. That might be messy regarding NATO but as Don says the responsibility for action legally resides with Congress since they're the ones who ratified the alliance.

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    4. Once again, and not at all for the last time, our MAGA President does the right thing!!!

      And the swamp wails!!!!

      The icing on the MAGA cake!!!

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  8. Gee, I thought it was the Senate that could vote to declare war.

    The old saying that "War is diplomacy by other means" has become "Trade sanctions are war by other means".

    I kind of like the new policy.

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    1. Actually, it's both houses of Congress that must jointly declare war, which our Founding Fathers rightly regarded as serious business. Otherwise, I am in full agreement.
      NB

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    2. Question #4 of the Powell Doctrine:
      Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?

      Trade sanctions, who'd athunk it? (Besides Trump)
      -lg

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    3. Trump threatened Turkey with sanctions the day he said US troops were withdrawing from northern Syria. How did that work?
      Trump sent a letter to Turkey's prez three days after its invasion of northern Syria saying "don't be a fool" How did that work out?

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    4. You volunteering to go, nony?
      Didn't think so, you chicken-wuss.
      Bet you never served a day in your life.
      -lg

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    5. "LG" probably stands for "little guy" based on your tough guy answer. Seeing how you are not a chicken-wuss, please tell me how your trip to Syria went. And in typical Surbot fashion, you cannot provide a cognizant answer to my questions. You have only childish insults to offer in absence of true discourse. But here is one more chance to tell me how Trump's trade sanctions are deterring Turkey.

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    6. It worked out great. Other than the attack and firestorm the Turks launched in Kentucky, as captured by ABC cameras, Erdogan has been pretty quiet.

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    7. Actually, LG stands for Large Gonads as your mom will verify.
      As for your cognizant answer: they've been fighting each other in the middle east for centuries. Did you really think sanctions would work overnight? You're truly naive then. Great example of sanctions, well tariffs in this case working, is china coming back to the table for trade talks. It's taken a while but it is showing positive results.
      Another great example is the gm/uaw strike. While not actually a sanction per se, it is an example of one side using econimic pressure to get something from the other side. The union withheld labor until the company would give the workers better wages and whatnot. Again, didn't happen overnight- 5 weeks and the agreement is just tentative.
      As far as being in Syria?
      No, I did my service back in the eighties when we were dealing with Iran kidnapping U.S. diplomats, Lebanese terrorists blowing up our Beirut embassy and hijacking twa flights full of Israeli citizens, and just for kicks playing around with Libya.
      -lg

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  9. We did the world and the Kurds a solid by crushing ISIS. A simple thank you would be in order, as we turn our attention to other matters.

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  10. They are having a swell time with that comment that the Kurds are not angels. They aren’t. They are extremely tough fighters. That is what he meant. But the state media twists away...

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  11. Politicians blow with the wind. Neither true purpose, nor moral ethics rule them. They cannot be depended upon, and we have certainly learned that lesson the hard way. They will jump ship at the first sign of a cloud in the sky. The majority are not to be admired, and most should be fired!

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  12. Some great house members voted yes. Surprising. Some so-so members (the 3 republicans from MS) happily voted no. That too was somewhat surprising as they can be swamp critters many a time. There is nothing predictable in that festering cesspool (Senate and House) except that democrats are insane and Romney will blast PDJT.

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    1. There is no rumknee!!!

      Only mittens!!!!

      Stop with the fake naming!!!

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  13. The majority of Repubs who voted Yes need to be asked why they are undercutting the Pence team as it flies off to negotiate an agreement between Turkey and the Kurds.

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    1. What's Pence going to do? Turkey is flipping the middle finger to everything Trump is telling them not to do right now. As for the majority of Rs, maybe they are finally realizing that democracy is more important than being liked by Trump.

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    2. The swamp is fading fast.

      To keep the swamp engaged in their traditional maturbations, their self created quagmires, their mudpits sucking them down and immobilizing them, whilst MAGA rolls steadily towards More MAGA, is the purpose.

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  14. The Kurds were using the US as much as the US was using the Kurds. Time for us to depart. B.S.G.

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  15. How were the Kurds using the U.S. And the U.S. "was using" the Kurds. Wow. Sound foreign policy to "use" a foreign entity.

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    1. How and why are the kurds our problem? Their fate should be in the hands of the U.N. They are rebels who are a thorn in the side of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Russia.
      We didn't marry them or adopt them. They can either fight and win, fight and lose, or learn to negotiate.

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    2. The Kurds are not our "problem," they are (were) our allies. So, you are okay with the 11,000 ISIS prisoners the Kurds were watching to go free? Interesting.

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    3. NBC News tweeted:
      CORRECTION: A previous tweet misquoted President Trump saying Turkey's invasion into northern Syria “is not our problem.”

      He said, “They have a problem at a border — it's not our border,” as well as “it’s not between Turkey and the US," according to White House transcript.

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    4. 1. MAGA is President.

      2. swamp is not president.

      3. chicommies, moolies, etc., are not president.


      Sit on it and rotate.

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  16. Though I have some sympathy for some Kurds, they are like most Middle Eastern peoples: tribal. Some tribes are sometimes our allies, other tribes are not. Most of them are moslems, and will choose sharia over Western Civilization every time.

    Look up "green on blue attack" for examples why I don't want to have anything to do with Middle Eastern peoples; some seem fair, but are foul.

    President Trump has it exactly right: they have border problems, but they're not our borders; nation problems, but they're not our nation.

    We have poisonous thorns in our side in the form of Ilhan Omar/Elmi and Rashida Tlaib; they don't belong in this country, regardless of whether they were born here or not, and are working to destroy us. I'd like to see a wall keeping all savage barbarians out of our country, and to limit all our dealings with them everywhere!

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    1. Tom Kratman has been there, and dealt with Kurds. Here is the bottom line:

      "Thus, it might be better for the United States, before pinning too much hope and faith on the Kurds, to understand that they’re military imbeciles with an unearned and undeserved reputation, that their culture is barbaric, they their one talent seems to be propagandizing and manipulating liberal Western opinion, which is eager to be manipulated, anyway, that any kids who die usually do so because of their own neglect of those kids, that they have no sense of gratitude for any help you give them, that they treat women like donkeys, and that they place zero value on the lives of those who try to help them." RTWT

      http://mydailykona.blogspot.com/2019/10/post-about-kurds.html

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    2. The Kurds as a whole are like the Jews were, before their nation of Israel.

      Yet, being utterly factionalized, as moolies are, the kurds just cannot get enough respect from their moolie cousins to get their own territory, aka nation.

      Maybe the "united nations" can provide the kurds with some of that un potency???

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  17. The House GOP leadership, including Nunes and McCarthy voted against Trump and stabbed him in the back

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  18. Glad you could use my Syria Crocodile Tear Gif!

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  19. https://www.lucianne.com/2019/10/17/cease-fire_reached_between_turkish_andbrkurdish_forces_after_us_delegationbrmeets_in_turkey_18049.html
    Via Lucianne..
    please read, Nonny et. al.

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  20. Why do some posters have to be vulgar?

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    1. So.

      You have a blog of your own.

      No posts, whatsoever, on your own blog.

      And, apparently, you were born in november of 2016.

      And you ask a question about vulgarity.

      And, within your question is a presumptive statement.

      And an implied disapproval.

      How delicate of you.

      How so not at all deplorable.

      How dainty.

      How prissy.

      How sensitive.


      How about posting something on your own blog?

      The one your profle links to?


      Or would that be too vulgar a thing for you to do?

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