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Tuesday, September 10, 2019

Democrats don't want Trump supporters

Stuart Rothenberg, 71, was among the many paid political forecasters who totally missed the 2016 election. In a column that promised to be pedestrian ("Why working-class whites aren’t giving up on Trump") he inadvertently exposed the leftist prejudice against white people.

He attacked the president as authoritarian and his supporters as mindless rubes. Nothing has changed in liberal thinking since Kevin D. Wiliamson's gawdawful embarrassment "The Father-F├╝hrer" was published in National Review on March 28, 2016.

Williamson ended his piece, "The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs. Forget your [obsenity] gypsum, and, if he has a problem with that, forget Ed Burke, too. The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin. What they need isn’t analgesics, literal or political. They need real opportunity, which means that they need real change, which means that they need U-Haul.

"If you want to live, get out of Garbutt."

Three years later, Garbutt's unemployment rate is down to 3.6%. Drug overdose deaths are down nationwide for the first time in nearly two decades. President Donald John Trump is fixing problems that elitists wrote off as unsolvable.

Williamson may have progressed. I don't know. I see his byline and I skip the piece. I am sure people do that to me as well.

But I do know that Rothenberg is stuck in the past because he said so. In his column, he framed supporters of President Trump as southern white people supporting segregation.

Rothenberg began by quoting a column by Seymour Martin Lipset from 60 years ago. Lipset wrote, "The social situation of the lower strata, particularly in poorer countries with low levels of education predisposes them to view politics in simplistic and chiliastic terms of black and white, good and evil. Consequently, other things being equal, they should be more likely than other strata to prefer extremist movements which suggest easy and quick solutions to social problems and have a rigid outlook rather than those which view the problem of reform or change in complex and gradualist terms and which support rational values of tolerance."

Mel Brooks mocked this elitist attitude in his 1981 movie, History of the World: Part I.
Count de Monet: I’ve come on the most urgent of business. It is said that the people are revolting.
King Louis XVI: You said it! They stink on ice!
But Lipset was plain wrong. Elitists are not immune to authoritarianism, and in fact are primed for it. Consider their opposition on both sides of the pond to Great Britain leaving the European Union. The elitists unfailingly side with the unelected bureaucracy over the desires of the people.

Fascism rose in Europe after World War I in large part thanks to the intellectuals of the time, whose only argument was whether the totalitarianism should be nationalistic like the Nazis or internationalist like the Soviets.

For example, physicist Enrico Fermi was a member of the Fascist Party in Italy, fleeing only when Mussolini revealed his anti-Semitism. Fermi then took his Jewish bride to Chicago where he eventually headed a team in the Manhattan Project.

Rothenberg ended his column, "The cultural and economic divisions that Lipset found 60 years ago are still very apparent today. Democratic appeals to woo downscale white voters back to the party of Franklin Roosevelt on issues like minimum wage, jobs, and economic fairness and equality have had limited success because those voters continue to respond to cultural issues — and candidates with authoritarian styles and simplistic messages.

"It’s no wonder that white, working-class Americans are still in the president’s corner — and why, unless a strong economic downturn refocuses their attention on economic issues, they will remain devoted fans.

"But in the long run — and as long as cultural issues remain a deep divide in the country — it is difficult to see those voters finding a comfortable place in a Democratic Party that places such a high value on tolerance and diversity in general, and on issues like global climate change, women’s rights and racial inequality, in particular."

Wrong. Democrats place no value on tolerance or diversity. Democrats demand conformity. The time for debate on global warming is over. End of discussion. Americans not only must accept men using the girl's bathroom but we must bake the men a cake.

Democrats kicked white, working-class Americans to the curb 50 years ago. The party figured it did not need them. They owe the Democrat Party nothing. They support President Trump not because he is an authoritarian but because they have nowhere else to go.

A recession won't separate them from President Trump because nobody else wants them. The Democrat Party has nothing to offer but gun confiscation, the homeless pooping on the sidewalk, and reparations for Oprah Winfrey.

If Democrats wanted our votes, they would make us an offer instead of offering us ridicule.


  1. The Democrats are indeed in needing to progress further...because of the stink of their whatever. The "progressing" is the thing. Bring on Man-Sheep marriage please.

    1. Please...nooooooo! A nice leg of lamb would never be the same.

    2. On the plus side, you you won't have to worry about getting a divorce. You just throw a barbeque instead.

    3. saw a sign on a shop once in san Fran, before the bums took over. I was upstairs in Vesuvios. across the way, "the ultimate in safe sex! inflatable sheep!"



    4. Why did you have to remind me about that Gene Wilder scene from "Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask)?"

  2. gosh. now I fill ignant.

    I'm willing to debate any holier than thou liberal progressive socialist moldy cheese eating white whine slurping blow dried sneer boys.

    any time. any place. any subject.

    only one rule. no logical fallacies.


  3. "Tolerance and diversity" is why I won't put a Trump 2020 bumper sticker on my truck--I can't afford the vandalism from the party of peace and brotherhood. I know I'm not alone either; we're a low profile, silent majority. The only thing that will keep 2020 from being a blowout landslide nationwide is the extent of the fraud machine. And that fraud is so much more skilled and extensive now than what Reagan faced. I just hope that Brad Parscale is as smart as PDJT seems to think he is.

    1. Yep. Leftists are the opposite of what they say they are.

    2. 100% true. I live in Kentucky and would be afraid to put a Trump sign in my yard. I would undoubtedly get a rock through my historic home's window (and that would cost a ton to fix). My car would get keyed. Tolerance!

    3. Look up writings by Dr. Epstein who was interviewed by Mark Levin last Sunday on FNC. He is left of center and a Hillary supporter who says Google has and will change people's voting choices by subliminal messaging.

    4. Agreed. I consider myself a defiant MFer but I won't wear the MAGA hat to dinner at a restaurant. I can handle confrontation...but it's what they'll SECRETLY do to my food that worries me! LOL!

    5. Absolutely. I bought a Trump tee shirt in an extra large size to wear as a nightshirt cuz I don't want to risk getting accosted in the street. I don't put bumper stickers on my car cuz I don't want to get keyed. But, you can bet your bottom dollar, I WILL be voting for Trump in 2020 and encouraging others to do the same every chance I get between now and then.

      One of my big selling points is...Would you rather have a smooth talking president the leftist media loves and FOOD STAMPS...OR Trump who is often mouthy and the media constantly berates but you have a GOOD JOB? What would be better for you and your family?

  4. What has Trump done to win the majority of the country who didn't vote for him? Division, exploding deficits, farm subsidy handouts, and unfulfilled promises ain't much of a legacy, son. The stench from Trump's corruption and self-dealing should be the deal breaker.

    1. tax cuts, jobs, rising wages, protecting rights, not killing babies, respecting cops and military, cutting pointless regulations and telling libs and the presstitutes to piss off.

      want more?


    2. Take the needle out of your arm, zip up your pants and leave your overpass for a couple of hours. There's been an amazing transformation of the country in less than 3 years.

      It's worth your getting clean and sober to experience.

    3. The stench from Democrats' corruption and self dealing. FIFY

    4. If there were any corruption, the donks, dumb as they are, would have found it by now. Instead all we get are pipe dreams and sharpiegate. If your beloved Communists had anything, even a sliver, they would not be over the top about sharpiegate.
      Try drug rehab. If that doesn't help, try base jumping without a bungee cord.

    5. Until you can show the check from Mexico for the wall, you might want to hide your face in shame for being such a dupe. So much for Trump promises. Not worth the stock in Trump enterprises.

    6. The chicoms are paying for it.

      As for the "check", well, your conception of finance is sufficient for you to buy that bridge in brooklyn.

      That bridge to nowhere the democrats are selling.

    7. Congress holds the purse strings and Congress is ran by the Democrats. Did you notice the longest non-essential government shutdown ever? That was Trump attempting and failing to get the Dems to behave rationally. Basically, the Dems took vacations and in between sipping boat drinks, complained that government employees were doing without because of Trump. It was at that point I vowed to never vote for a Democrat again.


  5. The elite calling the lower orders as being wedded to a simplistic black & white morality system is laughable. when far too many of them view their political opponents as irredeemably evil in comparison to their pure as snow selves.

    Thank Mr. H for Fermi emigrating to the US. Mussolini imposed them to show Mr. H that he had thrown in with the NSDAP's New World Order.

    Kevin Williamson may be still be a never-Trumper, but he's far less rabid about it these days, since he's well aware what the Democratic alternatives to Trump are. I read him before and still read him. David French still hates Trump with a passion, but to give him credit he's grudgingly started to agree with the POTUS from time to time.


    1. Simplistic Black & White morality = College "Studies" Departments.

      -Mikey NTH

    2. Shouldn’t that be former presidential candidate David French? I admire you for still reading French and Williamson. I won’t click on anything by them or National Review.

    3. Schlongtavious:

      To not read current columns by NeverTrumpers and reasoning liberals because of past writings, no matter how over the top is to live in a mirrored bubble. I refuse to do that. Said columnists frequently have worthwhile comments and ideas. Quillette is one leftish site I frequent, the articles are generally erudite and the commentors are kept in check. I don't go to Vox or Huffpo or other uberleftist sites because the abuse and hate is disgusting and insane and they rarely say anything that isn't trash. I also try to check multiple sources for sensational claims so not to make stupid comments. I also do my best not to troll or be abusive, it's a waste of time and shuts off any hope of dialogue.


    4. We all, each, live in the bubble of our own definings.

      We like, we agree, we accept and give value to.

      We dislike, we disgree, we reject and give negative value to.

      If it makes sense to us, we embrace.

      If it makes no sense to us, we disregard.

      Each is a bubble unto itself.

      What we each value, as a positive yes or negative no, is a quality which we quantify by giving weight to.

      Thus, one heaviy weighted negative can outweigh many light weighted positives. And the flip side is also true.

      Each is, therrefore, each thinks, feels emotions and experiences sensation input, from within body and from outside of body.

      We each choose what we can, endure what is imposed and experience existence here until we don't.

      To your point, some seek ome sense in the buzzings of insects.

      Some conclude that a buzzing fly is a buzzing fly, and no more or less than that.

      While the buzzings of flies may be useful to locate a decompsing corpse, to seek sense in their buzzing is to seek what is not present therein.

    5. Tars -! Understand your point. I just won’t support NR. They went too far and continue to. I read plenty of others who are liberal, but I choose not to support the NR with clicks.

  6. Williamson can kiss my white ass. That column, he crossed the Rubicon. No amount of Rev. Dimmesdale will get him back into my house. Rothenberg is an aging Liberal Jew and is in God’s hands now. Not my problem.

  7. Oooh, "chiliastic"-- an SAT word. I had to look it up. He should have thought twice before using it. Strangely enough, it means "millennial" (that is, one who believes in a 1000-year-long Messianic period) and it aligns perfectly with the simplistic liberal millennial view of good (Democrats and Socialism) and evil (President Trump, conservatives, etc.).

  8. simplistic morality.


    pay to play=bad

    illegal aliens voting= bad

    presale of stolen goods, debates= bad

    plundering the peasants= bad

    taking away one peoples rights to serve to another to buy votes=bad

    to serve man=bad (it's a cookbook)

    to encourage cannibalism to prevent a non existent problem like global warming=bad

    democracy as practiced by cannibals= bad

    there's more but I'm trying to maintain my hozro

    auto correct= bad

    Google=spawn of the devil

    das kapital= bad

    mein kampf= bad

    Herbert Marcuse= bad

    bill ayers= bad

    Hanoi Jane Fonda= bad

    man boy love a holes=bad


    1. Actually, "To Serve Man" was a pretty tasty book...

    2. if you're a space alien, yeah.

      I was more leaning towards earthly pious posers who use that line to feast on everyone else and only serve themselves.

      Bernie comes to mind.

      its a universal truth those who proclaim to save the world if only they had enough control and power are just maintaining a useful mask for the dolts.

      maintaining a state of fear in the peasants from some old canard like, you foolish peasants have angered the weather gods because you didn't make the proper sacrifices.

      that scam is older than hieroglyphics.


  9. For Elites to be Elites, they have to produce. Instead, they have failed completely and run this country into a ditch--while skimming the cream off the top for themselves. Screw them.

    As for authoritarianism, that is what the Obama/Clinton Crime Family practiced; a One-Man Nuclear Treaty, One-Man Climate Treaty, One-Man Immigration Law and a One-Party Police State Coup Attempt. Authoritarian, and criminally so.

    President Trump is the one who abides by the law. And loves America.

    1. Okay.

      democrats = the void.

      Republicans are of 3:

      rinos = grifters.

      elitists = grifter snobs.

      MAGA = Constitutional Republic of Sovereign States, thus United.

      MAGA = Americans.

      Americans = America.

      America = the envy of all other nations.

      Thusly, the democrats, aka the void, crave all others join them in their utter empty existences devoid of MAGA.

      Thusly, the rinos and the elitist snobs condemn MAGA as the threat it is to their grifting, snobbish ways.

      Thusly, all MAGA is opposed by all grifters world wide.


      MAGA it Bigly!!!

      More MAGA.

      More America.

      Less void.

  10. And, there is another group of people in this country who originated in the middle East and live primarily in New York, California and South Florida and who have to their credit created communism, which created the worst forms of genocide ever known to man, much worse than the Holocaust, and are for the total overthrow of the U.S. government as is. They never should have been allowed into this country, especially during and after WWII and many should be imprisoned today, but for all of their brethren who hold most senior government positions today and apply the law unequally amongst themselves. There names are names such as Rothenberg, Levin, Epstein, Horowitz, Goldberg, Feinstein, Blumenthal, Schiff, Schumer, Blitzer, and the little twerp in congress who is always trying to impeach Trump, etc., etc. I am afraid that in the end, they will lose badly and lose they will.....

    How is that for a tit-for-tat? Think twice about openly criticizing poor white people and good riddance to you Mr. Rothenberg

  11. .....In 2016.... bought 8 Trump signs for $ 4 each.....All 8 were stolen by the TOLERANT....CO-EXIST...BE KIND....Crowd.....

  12. ....My friend had a TRUMP sticker on the back window of his pickup.....2 California teenage females did $2500 of damage to his truck...scratching obscenities, etc....fortunately they were caught by a security camera...

    This kind of behavior is acceptable to a lot of Democrats....

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