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Saturday, December 22, 2018

Working with a NATO ally in Syria

In April, the Washington Post was adamant. In an editorial, it said, "Erdogan's thugs still need to be brought to justice." His henchmen had beaten up protesters during Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's 2017 visit to Washington.

The press denounced Erdogan as a bad man.

Then Jamal Khashoggi died likely at the hands of Saudi Arabia's government at its embassy in Istanbul. He had published a few op-eds in the Washington Post, which made him a Washington Post columnist. He also was a supporter of Osama bin Laden in the 1980s and had an uncle who was implicated in the Iran-contra deal.

Erdogan revealed the Saudi role in Khashoggi's murder.

The press praised Erdogan as a good man.

But President Trump has announced that the United States will bring home its 2,000 troops in Syria. Suddenly, Erdogan is a bad man again because the press believes he will kill the Kurds. And everyone knows the Kurds are the good guys because everyone says the Kurds are the good guys.

President Trump made a unilateral decision, the press said as though that is wrong. He is the commander in chief. The Constitution says so. As such he may consult anyone but ultimately the buck stops at the Resolute Desk.

The complaint is that the president is not working with our allies.

But Turkey is a member of NATO.

Besides, the Gulf States are there just in case the Kurds need help.

Nevertheless, the Associated Press reported, "President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw American troops from Syria was made hastily, without consulting his national security team or allies, and over strong objections from virtually everyone involved in the fight against the Islamic State group, according to U.S. and Turkish officials.

"Trump stunned his Cabinet, lawmakers and much of the world with the move by rejecting the advice of his top aides and agreeing to a withdrawal in a phone call with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan last week, two U.S. officials and a Turkish official briefed on the matter told The Associated Press."

What?

Trump ignored the talking points his underlings wrote?

Who is he to do that?

Oh wait. President. Commander in chief. People tend to overlook that. He is not some buffoon on TV, but rather a man who in his first political campaign beat the Clinton machine that had won the White House twice before, and which spent twice as much money to boot.

Critics also ignore how he built his business empire through the art of negotiation.

Paragraph 13 of the AP story said, "Erdogan, though, quickly put Trump on the defensive, reminding him that he had repeatedly said the only reason for U.S. troops to be in Syria was to defeat the Islamic State and that the group had been 99 percent defeated. 'Why are you still there?' the second official said Erdogan asked Trump, telling him that the Turks could deal with the remaining IS militants."

Erdogan made a good point.

Paragraph 14 said, "With Erdogan on the line, Trump asked national security adviser John Bolton, who was listening in, why American troops remained in Syria if what the Turkish president was saying was true, according to the officials. Erdogan’s point, Bolton was forced to admit, had been backed up by Mattis, Pompeo, U.S. special envoy for Syria Jim Jeffrey and special envoy for the anti-ISIS coalition Brett McGurk, who have said that IS retains only 1 percent of its territory, the officials said."

I do not think Donald Trump was surprised by this. I think he anticipated Erdogan's talking point and agreed. President Trump does not want U.S. soldiers dying around the world. He wanted assurances that Erdogan would not retaliate against the Kurds. Breaking his word could cost Erdogan's membership in NATO.

The press tells us we need to work with allies to defeat the Islamic State.

That is what President Trump is doing.

Happy?

16 comments:

  1. "Then Jamal Khashoggi died likely at the hands of Saudi Arabia's government at its embassy in Istanbul. He had published a few op-eds in the Washington Post."

    The death of Saudi subject in Turkey is not an American problem. Send the Saudi a thank you note for offing a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

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  2. Our military is just another money hungry bureaucracy. The endless war with no end in sight is just a way to keep the dollars flowing with trumped up crises. The EPA in camo.

    Nothing against the troops. But we should have a lot fewer. The founders never wanted a standing army in the first place. Navy and marines and some missiles are enough.

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    1. I agree they have yet to pass an audit. Ever. They refuse to balance their books and the last 30 yrs reveal trillions unaccounted for.

      Yet criticize them and suddenly your not a patriot. In other words kill the messenger to ignore the message. The masses are hopefully ignorant of the rampant corruption across the board since the USSR collapsed.

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    2. We should have the largest army in the world, one numbering a hundred million or more. That would be every man and boy over the age of 16 plus every woman who is willing to be a part.
      Every one of them should have a known place in his or her regiment, know their team members, their chain of command and drill on scheduled occasions so that no nation on earth would dare attempt an attack.
      Instead we have a very small number of men and women who signed on the line and are regularly abused by the government for the amusement of the media in lands far away for reasons that have little bearing on Americans unless you are a globalist wanting to dominate a won world government.

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  3. Next, Afghanistan. Same shite, different country.

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  4. Sorry for the long cut and paste. But this calls for a bit o' Kipling:

    Ford o' Kabul River

    Kabul town's by Kabul river --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    There I lef' my mate for ever,
    Wet an' drippin' by the ford.
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    There's the river up and brimmin', an' there's 'arf a squadron swimmin'
    'Cross the ford o' Kabul river in the dark.

    Kabul town's a blasted place --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    'Strewth I shan't forget 'is face
    Wet an' drippin' by the ford!
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    Keep the crossing-stakes beside you, an' they will surely guide you
    'Cross the ford o' Kabul river in the dark.

    Kabul town is sun and dust --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    I'd ha' sooner drownded fust
    'Stead of 'im beside the ford.
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    You can 'ear the 'orses threshin', you can 'ear the men a-splashin',
    'Cross the ford o' Kabul river in the dark.

    Kabul town was ours to take --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    I'd ha' left it for 'is sake --
    'Im that left me by the ford.
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    It's none so bloomin' dry there; ain't you never comin' nigh there,
    'Cross the ford o' Kabul river in the dark?

    Kabul town'll go to hell --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    'Fore I see him 'live an' well --
    'Im the best beside the ford.
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    Gawd 'elp 'em if they blunder, for their boots'll pull 'em under,
    By the ford o' Kabul river in the dark.

    Turn your 'orse from Kabul town --
    Blow the trumpet, draw the sword --
    'Im an' 'arf my troop is down,
    Down an' drownded by the ford.
    Ford, ford, ford o' Kabul river,
    Ford o' Kabul river in the dark!
    There's the river low an' fallin', but it ain't no use o' callin'
    'Cross the ford o' Kabul river in the dark.

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    1. And the point of this many words used in a poem is?

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  5. In general, eff NATO. They want the US to spill blood and spend money so the rest can fund socialist utopias.

    Eff them all.

    Bring all soldiers home. Only support international operations by US Navy or Air Force. Fire missles at them, if need be.

    The very next time a US soldier dies in combat, it better be due to all out war.

    Eisenhower through JFK got us into Korea and Vietnam. Eff them both!

    HW got us in the middle east. W doubled down. Obama made it worse.

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    1. Truman got us into Korea and FWIW, he sent the first troops to Vietnam as advisors. At the time, we had important interests in keeping Vietnam out of communist control, a thing called rubber.
      Technology has allowed petroleum based products to replace it, but in 1950 we were dependent on rubber from the Malaysian region.
      The history of Vietnam post 1973 makes me think that withdrawal was a mistake. The purges that happened were on a scale that rivaled China, but that is the story of communism throughout the world.

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    2. Congress has for over 70 years avoided declaring war. Instead the War Powers Act was passed and then Obama ignored it in Libya.

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  6. As long as he waits until RBG is room temperature.

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  7. They would complain about all the doctors he has put out of work.

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  8. No, Joe Biden cured cancer in the last year of Hussein's "presidency". I know because his boss gave him the assignment.

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  9. http://time.com/4178412/cancer-state-of-the-union-barack-obama-sotu/

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  10. Off topic a bit but all relevant to Syria.

    EU buys oil from Russia because they are too Green to produce real energy themselves. So we fight to protect them and they can dream of unicorns all day. Russia can continue to fight in Syria because of the money from selling oil to the EU.

    EU doesn't want to be part of the sanctions on Iran. They want to make money in Iran and let us protect them. They expect us to fight in the middle east to keep Iran under control with our money and men. They are too busy on holiday and going Green. Iran can continue to fight us around the globe because Iran continues to trade with Russia and the EU, both trying to skip out on sanctions.

    The EU wants the US to buy stuff from them but we can't sell them anything. They get richer and our workers stand on street corners.

    The EU wants us to pay the bill for the Paris agreement or they won't be our friends.

    The EU wants us to pay for most of NATO and take all the risk in every conflict so they can sit back and do nothing.

    The EU is importing millions of destructive immigrants who are going to destabilize the EU and create civil wars. No worries the US will be their to protect us.

    China continues to mop up around the world while we end up spending all our time being fools for others.

    Get out of the UN, Middle East and NATO and tell the EU to pound pints glasses of bitter sideways.

    We got bigger fish to fry (or panda bears if you will)

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  11. I don't trust Turkey and Erdogan, especially against the Kurds, but the US has no good strategic goal in Syria.

    "Take over, all of it, and force some election" -- none of the advisors seem to advocate that. Congress has not declared war; there wasn't even much of a US boots on the ground "surge". "Leave" to go a hundred miles SE back to Iraq; or all the way back to the US.

    Have the active duty folk ... practice "fast wall-building", on the US S. border.

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