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Tuesday, November 21, 2017

Republicans need to learn the lesson of Clinton and Kennedy

Scott Adams of Dilbert fame thinks Roy Moore is toast, I don't. The allegations of sexual impropriety are specious at best, and overwhelmed by the shoes elsewhere dropping like a shoe store in an earthquake.

The election comes down to whether Republicans want to limit government, cut taxes, and Make America Great Again -- or whether they would like to please the news media. We cannot risk the disapproval of Charlie Rose, can we?



Glenn Thrush may skewer us in the New York Times.

Democrats have no such problem. They would vote for a yellow dog if he were a Democrat, and they have.

Ted Kennedy drove drunk, let a woman die, and not only kept his Senate seat but almost became the party's 1980 presidential nominee.

Bill Clinton was a perjurer and abuser of women.

In both cases, Democrats stood by their man as if they were in a Tammy Wynette song.

Republicans will say we should not lower ourselves to their standards.

That's loser talk.

I love my country more than I love my party -- so I say vote for Roy Moore. If guilty, you can remove him. But if innocent, you cannot install him if he loses to super-liberal Doug Jones.

The fate of the country is too important to give Democrats a Senate seat.

Oh sure, Democrats are willing to sacrifice Al Franken only because Democratic Governor Mark Dayton will appoint a Democrat to succeed him.

I don't think Franken likes the job any more.

He is a low-seniority back-bencher who would have to wait until after the 2024 election to get a meaningful leadership post -- at the earliest.

He'll be 73 by that time.

He can resign now, avoid another close election, and get on with his life.

Republicans have to get serious about winning. I am not convinced they are.

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28 comments:

  1. That's the Al Franken defense. Good ol Grouping Al is more important overall for women so lets ignore what he does and keep him voting for women. See, it works both ways.

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  2. This is all aimed at getting a two-fer. One, get rid of the Clintons, including Bill, by using Bill to finish off Hillary. They're both spent forces and the lefties need to be rid of them to clear the deck for the next lefty champion. In addition to getting rid of the Clinton's for Bill's horrible behavior (a day late and a dollar short, but hey, who cares?) and for Hillary's covering up and enabling thereof, they'll sacrifice a few (like Franken, who's in a safe dem seat for replacement by another dem). Why the additional sacrifice? That's where the two-fer comes in. The left is going to bomb Trump with a lot of old allegations like the ones that didn't stick during the campaign, plus anything remotely new and claim he should under the new paradigm resign like Bill should have and the recent sacrifices, like Franken, et al have (or will). This is ultimately going to get turned onto Trump. Betcha. JPG

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    1. This is it exactly. It has nothing to do with any kind of permanent idea or standard. They don't have them. It's an elaborate power play.

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    2. I agree with this. Something is coming. As a general rule the Dems want Title IX rape kangaroo trials to be the norm in the nation's legal system. Sure it is nice to watch Rose and others covered with pitch and set afire on a cross to light the Colosseum but it is in reality only a set up for anyone who runs for office to find some accusers of his opponent and be elected on that alone. The NYT started this. Their motivation is never pure.

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    3. Democrats blame Bill after 30 years, we can wait 30 years for Roy Moore. No?

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  3. Clinton and Kennedy were never found guilty in a court of law of what you accuse them .... just like Moore. So if Moore is innocent in your eyes, so is Clinton and Kennedy. Interesting.

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    1. Actually, Ted did plead out, but to reduced charges. And Bill was disbarred for perjuring himself, IIRC. Interesting.

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    2. And the Democrats had four (I think four) Republicans who voted AGAINST impeaching Slick Willie. My congressman at the time, Amo "can't we all just get along" Houghton, was one of those four. Years later, he hosted at least one fundraiser for Hillary in his home here in Corning, NY.

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    3. Where are Moore's dead bodies and rape accusers? Where's his blue dress? The yearbook is an obvious fake just like you.

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    4. Clinton perjured himself in a court of law as a sitting President.

      Clinton lied under oath in the lawsuit brought by Paula Jones. The lawsuit was initially dismissed, but upon appeal, Clinton settled out of court.

      Not only did Clinton lie under oath, he attempted to suborn perjury, that is, he tried to get witnesses to lie under oath in court.

      The entire MSM painted it as just a sexual issue, it was not even close if you read the articles of impeachment against him.

      A friggin' US President lies in court and tries to get others to lie for him and he is defended to the max by the Democrats and his propagandists in the media.

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    5. Bill Clinton also was facing indictment over this. In a deal with the prosecutor, Clinton payed a $25K fine, surrendered his Arkansas law license for about 5 years, and gave up his demand to have the government pay his lawyer fees.

      Moreover, he made a public statement saying he misled and gave false testimony.

      So, no, unlike Moore, Clinton should have gone down.

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    6. Hey, coward-"Better put some ice on that.." TG

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    7. Ooo, TG. Bustamente. Good work.

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  4. I came across a picture that was a montage of Hillary with all these democrat creeps. The heading asked, "Does Hillary Clinton know anyone that isn't a sexual predator?"

    I showed it to my sons and one of them said, "Yes. She knows Bill Clinton, who did nothing wrong."

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    1. I trust you whupped him one for that, and explained the facts of life to him.

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  5. My tried and true method: Keep your pecker in your pants. - Elric

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  6. People who actually worked at the Olde Hickory House at the time Young accuses Moore say they don't know who she is and the restaurant was physically not as she described it. The media isn't covering the facts, only the lies.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-20/roy-moore-refutes-sexual-assault-claim-statements-former-restaurant-employees-and-cu#comment-10694045

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  7. A major différence between kennedy and clinton and Moore is the dems wanted them and the gope would rather have a dem than Moore. So, while the gope would throw any republican under the bus, the gope has moore incentive this time.

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  8. Anonymous @ 12:11 makes a good point. If Clinton and Kennedy are "innocent" having never been convicted in a court of law, it follows that he believes Judge Moore to also be innocent, eh no? Interesting.

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    1. But, he doesn't ...


      Anon @1211 states that if Moore is innocent, then Clinton and Kennedy must be.

      That is a different line if thinking than what you propose

      This is not junior high math.

      This is not ... if A=B and if B=C then A=C.

      Sorry, wrong. The assumption is that all are inherently the same in form, substance, and environment.


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  9. Again I say, Moore by 8. Folks, the election ain't til 12/12. Lots more shit to fly at the Dems between now and then.

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  10. Who ever is elected in Alabama will be back up for re-election in 2020. So three years isn't that big a risk to have Moore in office and the allegations processed.

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  11. "Republicans have to get serious about winning. I am not convinced they are."

    Yep. It's not enough to advance on the future. Ought to be charging it.

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  12. If Moore steps down based on non-proveable allegations, that will open the floodgates against any and all conservative republicans in the future. The McCain/McConnell types will never be accused of anything as they are RINOs and Swamp Dwellers.

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  13. Agree with many posts up there^^
    If Moore somehow is elected the solution seems obvious: Let the Senate try the guy. Certainly the guy (simply as a citizen) deserves more of a "fair hearing" than hysteria and the press gave him. Clear heads have to admit...the charges sure sound horrible but at the same time even Manson and Jeffrey Dahlmer got actual trials. He loses his Senate trial? Appoint his replacement. I dont recall seeing anywhere in the Constitution the Press has the authority to act as Judge Jury and Executioner.

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  14. I'm jealous.

    Alabama voters get to send a big F-U to the national media and the uniparty establishment TWICE now in 13 months.

    First Trump, now Moore.

    He's the middle-finger salute Washington DC deserves.

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  15. Difference is, D's will support a known rapist if he's on their team. R's will support someone if it becomes clear they are the victim of false accusations, which is what is almost certainly the case with Judge Moore.

    On the off chance that's not correct, R's will turn on him in a heartbeat and demand his resignation. Unlike D's with Al Franken - supporting him even though they know he is guilty.

    That's really the only difference here. AL Gov is an R and would be able to appoint an R to replace Moore, just like MN Gov is a D and would be able to appoint another D to replace Franken. So, why are D's standing by him even after its been proved he's guilty?

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  16. Oil and water.

    Matter and anti-matter.

    Oswald and Ruby.

    Republicans and winning.

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