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Sunday, March 26, 2017

Germany owes us $375 billion

When the Soviet Union was at West Germany's door and threatening to annex it, President Truman promised the United States would stop the Soviets if they dared cross the line.

This was a line drawn on iron, not sand. Truman was a veteran of World War I and no fan of the Germans, but he would be damned if he let the communists take over.

So we provided cover while West Germans cleaned up the ruble, and we bought their crappy products which led to the "economic miracle" in Germany, just as there was an "economic miracle" in Italy, and an "economic miracle" in Japan.

We posted troops there to keep the Soviets out of Heidelberg. We even sent Elvis at the height of his career.

The agreement was West Germany and the rest of the NATO allies would devote 2 percent of their GDP to defense.

Just 2%.

NATO did not end with the fall of the Soviet Union. No, no, no. The Germans wanted those American bases to stay. American soldiers may be barred from certain bars in Fulda back in the day, but by golly they support the Fulda economy.

German has not met its commitment in decades.

Trump just sent them an invoice for U.S. taxpayers covering for Germany.

From the Independent:
Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300 billion [$375 billion] from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato. 
The US President is said to have had an 'invoice' printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany's unpaid contributions for defence. 
Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.
While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.
But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.
Pay up, you chiselers.

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  1. We covered their defenses when it was needed and unfortunately that allowed them to roll into a more socialist economy. Now they have expenses that don't allow them the luxury of meeting their defense obligations. Our allies, Germany, Japan and SoKo do pick up some of the costs of our deployments, so it is not completely true that they are not paying towards their defense provided by us. I have not seen a breakdown of what they and others are actually paying for in relation to what they have promised to pay for our efforts. With 1.3 million refugees in Germany, their internal defense costs and support of the refugees are going to cost them a fortune. They are an example we should not follow.

  2. "Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300 billion"

    Hmm, would dear Angela really do a 'return to sender'?

    I guess she figures that since she was on the 'other side of the wall' back then, she doesn't owe.
    I just gotta wonder why any western country would elect a politician from the eastern block after reunification...and look at the mess.
    Did she plan it that way...could she be working for a foreign faction?

    Wondering minds are staying up late!

  3. The hordes streaming through the Fulda Gap at this time don't have high Slavic cheekbones, but Merkel's Maraudrers are a late gift from the former East Germany.

  4. If she doesn't spend the money to increase military spending, it'll be hard to keep Germany German, and not Muslim.

  5. Germany went from being the world's pariah to being the world's moral scold in less than fifty years thanks to our generosity. We even facilitated them getting their empire back, including the return of a multicultural version of Vichy France. This last move by Trump is a signal to them that the next time they want any favors there is already a bill attached.

  6. This is absolutely correct. A recent poll I saw revealed that only a scant minority of Germans thought it was right to defend ones country in war. Like all polls I'm sure it is wrong, but still...

  7. Trump could save a ton by pulling out the 54,000 troops still stationed there. Let Germany face the Russkis on their own again.

    1. Damn right, Dennis. Close up shop. And there's a whole business world of support for those troops that will close up shop too. Enough is enough, Angela. Auf Wiedersehen.

    2. If things REALLY go to hell-and-gone with Merkel's Magical Mystery Moslem Tour, what makes anyone think that the then remnant of the German people wouldn't welcome a rescue invasion by Rootin' Tootin' Putin?

  8. I was having an internet argument with some guy from Belgium who informed me that they had social programs that needed the funding more than the military and any commitments to NATO. I told him that's a nice luxury when you have big brother that's willing to interject himself into every cause, until he isn't. He seemed to think their past neutral status would keep them out of harms way if America didn't come to the rescue. History is littered with morons who think like him. It's almost like Europe is going out of it's way to breed pussies. And it's like an international entitlement now: America will do the heavy lifting and we can spend our money on social programs. And like American parasites, these people have been entitled so long that they now think they are owed this. They almost become belligerent about it.

    1. Good post, Hoss. Agree with all points. The only things the Belgians have contributed to the world are waffles and tournadoes (no, not the fighter jets). When my wife and I visited Brussels and our tour bus stopped in front of a statue of a little boy that was perpetually peeing into a pool, I was like, Hon, we gotta get out of this place. If it's the last thing we ever do.

    2. You've nailed it, Hoss. Many Aussies think the same way: they have a tiny force to defend the country (which is geographically the same size as our mainland, but which has less than 10% of our population) but somehow they believe that they don't need any US protection.

      For many years there was a demonstration against the US military each time a Navy ship entered port in Australia. What madness! Many also blame the USA for all the problems of the world, they've been well-taught by the Marxists in placing blame.

  9. "So we provided cover while West Germans cleaned up the ruble . . . "

    Was this an intentional pun?

    Trump has no intention of collecting on that debt.

    He's just making explicit the bill to-date so people don't fool themselves as to what he'll do tomorrow.