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Friday, December 30, 2016

After 8 years of war-mongering, Democrats say they are pacifists

The Democratic presidential candidate this year voted for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq while in the Senate, and pushed for a war to de-stabilize Libya, which had not posed a threat on the United States in nearly 30 years.

The Republican candidate ran as a pacifist America Firster.

Now Democrats are calling President Trump a warmonger -- even as President Obama rattles sabers at the nation that has the second largest stockpile of nukes.

From President Trump on September 7:
I would be slower to go to war than Hillary.
I would be very, very cautious. I think I'd be a lot slower. She has a happy trigger. You look, she votes for the wars, she goes in Libya. I think it's a tremendous burden. I think there is no greater burden that anybody could have.
I am totally prepared. But remember this. I found this subject and these subjects of interest all of my life. This hasn't been over the last 14 months. I've found these substantiates of tremendous interest. That's why they were asking me about Iraq 14 years ago. They were asking me these questions. They don't ask businesspeople those questions.
Right here is a list that was just printed today of 88 admirals and generals that I meet with and I talk to. I'm doing a lot of different things. I am studying. You see General Flynn and you see some of the folks that we have, and they're scattered throughout the audience. So we have admirals, we have generals, we have colonels. We have a lot of people that I respect.
Got that? I'm gonna listen to my generals and not my political consultants.

Now from Politico:
For much of President Barack Obama's second term, Congress sought to pass a formal authorization for the war against the Islamic State — both to signal the country’s resolve and to provide a check on the president's unfettered war powers.
That failure to act now means Donald Trump will effectively have free rein to wage what he calls a global U.S. war on radical Islam, a prospect that terrifies many Democrats.
“You could easily see him wanting to ramp up the war on terror and take it to new parts of the globe,” said Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. “There are few limits on what he can do.”
Democrats like Schiff worry that without an updated legal framework to govern the war on terror, Trump could turn some of his controversial campaign rhetoric into reality — from vows to bring back waterboarding to killing families of terrorists.
For "an inexperienced president who tweets and gets angry … to have broad war-making power, it’s a dangerous place to be," said Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), the lone member of Congress who voted against the nation's existing war authorization, which was passed in 2001 but has not been updated since.
President Trump has more international experience than Obama, even after eight years as president. Obama is intellectually lazy and disengaged from the world.

My guess is that within two years Schiff, Lee, and the Democrats will demand that Trump enter or even start a war.

We shall see.


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  1. Madame Swempski: I don't like this innuendo. Groucho: That's what I always say: love flies out the door when money comes innuendo.

    I see that George Soros is funding a lot of the Democrat Butthurt Brigade. As long as his money keeps coming "innuendo" reality and facts will be out the door and we will be hearing a lot of unfounded accusations and innuendo. It's just their nature. - Elric

  2. Dems hate war, unless they start one. War on Republicans, conservatives, the American people, those are OK, not being shooting wars, except for Fast and Furious. And Libya.

  3. Our current resident of the White House didn't seem to mind personally authorizing MANY drone strikes on small targets, many of those targets occupied dwellings. Not much mention in the media about that kind of war.

    1. But there will be. Starting January 20 there will be a daily body count from Afghanistan, Iraq,Yemen,etc.

  4. OT, but essential for Peace and Liberty:

    Amendment (*):

    No Muslim shall attain Citizenship, nor herein reside, nor enjoy the protections of this Constitution.

  5. Seems a whole lot of Washington insiders are trying to say to Trump, "You're a long way away from home now, man."

    What they're forgetting, however, is that conservatives in general are accustomed to being a long way away from home. And accustomed to taking care of themselves when they are.

  6. I, too, am a pacifist. I'm a heavily-armed pacifist.

  7. Since I had my conversion back in the Eighties, I have always said:

    Democrats make messes.
    Republicans clean them up.

  8. Democrats only hate war against Communists.

  9. Democrats have no idea how to wage war. Truman screws the pooch in Korea and Johnson later in Vietnam. Clinton got us involved in the breakup of Yugoslavia and Jughead has just been a moron on many fronts. Oh and thanks GW for the war in Iraq you rat bastard. See I'm a moderate.

    1. You are not a moderate. You are an honest man.

  10. Most nations end up in wars during their existence and we are no exception. How they are judged politically later depends on who won. Speaking only of recent events, in Iraq GW won, so for the Democrats it was a bad war. Lybia was a disaster but a Democrat started it so to them it was a war of good intentions that killed a horrible dictator, to the Republicans it was a miguided catastrophe. Syria is a Muslim on Muslim war with atrocities on a major scale that Obama invited by his inaction. But since it has no direct effect on our politics no one really cares, him least of all. Every R president and been called a war monger by his Democrat opponents. It is an old communist's lament that plays well with women and our now very delicate young men, so they will never stop doing it.
    When I was in military service I never met a war monger. People wanted the resources necessary to be ready for any mission they might be given, but nobody was itching to fight. The generals Trump appointed to help him will not be war mongering as these cynical Democrats "fear", but really hope for. If anything they will be even more hesitant than he but if some conflict becomes inevitable neither they nor he nor the USA are going to come out losers, that I believe. And This is what the Democrats fear more than anything.