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Thursday, September 21, 2017

Why CNN told you Trump's campaign was wiretapped

Seems odd, doesn't it, that a cable entertainment network devoted to bringing down the presidency of Donald Trump would suddenly -- out of nowhere -- report "Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman," but there it is.


As you will see, this story was given to CNN for a nefarious purpose.

Note what was said and what was not said:
US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.
The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team, which is leading the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election, has been provided details of these communications.
A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.
What was said:
  1. Some US investigators wiretapped.
  2. Some communications "sparked concern" 
  3. Mueller "has been provided"
  4. A FISA was issued in 2014
What was not said:
  1. Who got the FISA
  2. Why Mueller got the information
  3. Whether they spied on Trump directly or indirectly
This was an FBI gig ("The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year") although we do not know from the story who got the FISA originally.

This is a bombshell.

It proves the Obama administration used the U.S. intelligence community to spy on the political opposition.

We know that this was used politically because Susan Rice "unmasked" people in private conversations and communications recorded by our spies.

This is shocking information that should send those involved with the FISA to prison.

It came to CNN one of two ways.

The first possibility is it came from Mueller. Not directly. Don't be absurd. But read Paragraph 4 again:
Special counsel Robert Mueller's team, which is leading the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election, has been provided details of these communications.
Who provided the details to Mueller's team?

Was that legal? FISA stuff is supposed to be secret.

But we do know from James Comey that the FBI leaks stuff through third parties. He testified to the Senate that he leaked a memo to the New York Times through a conduit -- friend. Deep Throat long ago was an FBI man, Mark Felt.

The second possibility for the source is it came from someone who wants to bring Mueller down.

Because this is that big a blockbuster.

This means someone planted this story with CNN.
1. To bring Mueller down.
2. To help Mueller.
The first is self-evident. Spying on political foes is a huge no-no. This creates a big problem for an investigation already tarred with politics.

However, the second possibility is more likely because I see Mueller as being in big trouble.

He has nothing. Six months into this investigation he is still adding on to the payroll in the hope of getting something.

So far he has struck out on any Russian connection to the DNC email leak.

The June 16, 2016, meeting between the Russian lawyer and Trump's son and his son-in-law turned out to be a farce.

In the words of communist CNN commentator Van Jones, this is a nothingburger.

Meanwhile, Democrats realize President Trump is not going away. Democratic Party leaders are working with him. This shows that most Democrats in the House and in the Senate worry about what he can do to them in 2018.

The Mueller investigation is not fun anymore. Russian jokes are stale.

This story was aimed at keeping the story going. They have nothing. Donald Trump is an honest man. Mueller wants to investigate Trump for the next eight years, if only to intimidate his staff, acquaintances, and relatives.

Look for Mueller to break some news out now and then so he can keep this dead horse he flogs alive.

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27 comments:

  1. Whatever Mueller does is going to hurt Democrats more than any Trump Republican in 2018. The Dems SHOULD want this to go away. Add this to their DACA mess should be causing them nightmares.

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    1. "Should", you say. I suspect you may be overestimating their smarts.

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  2. Today there is a report that former DNI Crapper (yes, Crapper) admits that "Trumps voice" may have been on some of the wire taps. In other words they wire tapped a Presidential candidate and possible also a President Elect. Will this be as big a story as Don says it should be? I think not. The swamp is so infected with TDS that they will scuttle our civil liberties in order to bring Trump down.

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    1. Yep the stars are aligning to have the story smoothly morph into Trump as president elect was wiretapped by Obama admin officials.

      As I said before All. Of. This. to get out ahead of a blockbuster story. Someone has a story cooking that does a big reveal on the details of the wire taps.

      Clapper is a weather vane on where the story is being calibrated. Flat denial at first now we are at "Trump's voice" may have been recorded.

      I wonder how he feels about being a useful idiot at this point. Considering he's been under oath in testimony.... hmmm.

      Anyway you can bet that the maybe "Trump's voice" story is the absolute minimum that can be admitted now. But there has to be a big reveal for him to even say that.

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  3. They're slow walking out proof that Trump was right when he said he'd been wiretapped. What they hope to do is show that there was probable cause for this, and by getting an indictment, any indictment, show that a crime of some sort, any sort, was being committed that justified then and in retrospect, the decision by the Obama administration, and thus Obama himself, to spy on his political opposition. If they get away with this a terrible precedent has been set, and any quibbling little offense can, and will be used for the same evil purposes in the future.

    This is a violation of Trump's, and his entire team's constitutional right to face their accusers and be tried by their peers.

    This is a kangaroo show trial being held in secret.

    We need legislation specifically barring this kind of activity making it an impeachable offense.

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    1. Doc,
      While I agree w/you in theory, I'm sorry to say that I'm certain in practice such legislation would be worse than useless. Please let me explain my vp.

      In cases of a 2nd term president, during the final August to January period, impeachment has no teeth. He's in the last five months of his term, and by the time a congress, ANY congress— even a willing|eager one— “got off the dime” the new president would be taking The Oath.

      Impeachment would (probably not?) touch the retiring president's retirement package— so there's no financial impact.

      Concerning the “gravitas” of that theoretical president just impeached: those members of the group most likely to commit the offense, i.e.,
      Progressives, wouldn't care a whit that their leader was caught red-handed: he was doing it “for the Cause”; and for them “for The Cause” justifies all felonious conduct!

      We'd then see these Progressives go forth and irreparably muddy the water in order to, in the general public's mind, justify and vindicate the law-breaking— attempting to create a seed of doubt in the minds of the hoi-paloi.

      The creation of those “seeds of doubt” is what would make any such legislation worse than useless: it gives the enemy an effective way to damage us.

      I think instead, having a regular trial (possible b/c the goon's no longer president) and when found guilty imposing a sentence of:
      completely stripping all government retirement benefits, no matter the source-job from which they're derived;
      some length of mandatory jail time (served at the very least, at a medium-security prison facility);
      finally, barring any future public service, or lobbying, at any level.

      I'm sure these penalties would work best!

      Also, the exact same sentence for any and all his accomplices, at any level, too!

      I think that these guys losing their congress/senate pension(s), w/a possible loss of military pension, loss of other government benefits/pensions/whatever (and the president, in addition, losing his presidential perks,) will have bite.

      I also think that for any accomplices, the prospect of the same sentence will be an anchor on their ardor for felonious activity “for The Cause”, too.


      Anyway, those are my thoughts.

      I hope my tone is expressed such that you'll be able to “hear” my argument in the friendly tone intended!

      Also, I'm sorry this ran so long!

      Have a fine day and week, my best to you and yours!

      Sincerely,
      mf droid

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  4. Sheryl Atkinson has an article at the hill about other surveillance the Obama administration did.

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    1. In her latest book - 'The Smear' - she explains that the days of MSM reporters unearthing, researching and verifying stories are gone. Most reporters sit in their offices and get phone calls from everyone from lobbyists to congressional and political aides to money people asking to meet with them to give them information (and I figure, if disseminated, under the counter goodies as quid pro quo's).

      For those that do not know, she was surveilled by the Obama administration for exposing on CBS TV the 'Fast And Furious' gun-running program to Mexican drug cartels. Holder and Obama had cooked it up. Not only was an American border agent killed with one gun, but I believe over 100 Mexicans were murdered with those US weapons - which created outage in Mexico. We still don't know precisely what concessions Obama gave the Mexican government to make up for it.

      - Ken

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  5. At $1200 an hour, this investigation should have a time limit unless they can show the DoJ they have evidence. And unless the grand jury is full of strong willed people, Mueller can indict almost anyone.
    The lock picking, "midnight" raid on Manafort was an ethical violation. Had they done that to me, some of them and me would now be dead. These unnecessary no knock home invasions have gotten people killed. You are asleep, you are awaken by the crash of your door knocked in, you probably don't hear nor can hear since you were just awaken a call out "police" and suddenly people appear in your house. In that situation I don't yell "who goes there"; no, I open up with my 45 cal since my home has been obviously invaded. This not fantasy. Innocent people have been killed for resisting police invasions of their homes usually due misinformation from CIs or wrong addresses.

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  6. At $1200 an hour, this investigation should have a time limit unless they can show the DoJ they have evidence. And unless the grand jury is full of strong willed people, Mueller can indict almost anyone.
    The lock picking, "midnight" raid on Manafort was an ethical violation. Had they done that to me, some of them and me would now be dead. These unnecessary no knock home invasions have gotten people killed. You are asleep, you are awaken by the crash of your door knocked in, you probably don't hear nor can hear since you were just awaken a call out "police" and suddenly people appear in your house. In that situation I don't yell "who goes there"; no, I open up with my 45 cal since my home has been obviously invaded. This not fantasy. Innocent people have been killed for resisting police invasions of their homes usually due misinformation from CIs or wrong addresses.

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    1. You are 100% correct, and Mueller may have been willing to risk a shooting in order to intimidate others. One thing is certain, Mueller isn't looking for the truth. He wants a conviction, any conviction in order to undermine Trump.
      The dept of Injustice is apparently too corrupt to stop Mueller, but he is a clear and present danger.

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    2. Well, the FBI may have WANTED Manafort to do as AWR would have, that is, to pull a gun out of his bedside table's drawer. Then, they could have wasted him. Case over. Suspect DoS after assaulting FBI agents with a deadly weapon.

      The LA and Ventura County Sheriff's Offices pulled one of those in order to seize and sell the ranch they invaded in the middle of the night. It was worth millions. Civil forfeiture, donchaknow. They killed the owner and sold the ranch.

      In any case, it seems Mueller and the FTB
      were WAY more interested in scaring the hell out of Manafort and his wife than in preserving some "document" that wpuld have been "imperiled" in a civilized, daytime, "knock on the door" service of a search warrant.

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  7. It's a race. Either Mueller turns up something he can prosecute so that the surveillance is justified or the heat gets to one of the Deep State conspirators and they turn over evidence against the Obama administration. The Deep State has the advantage of a head start and unlimited resources. President Trump has ... Congress. When the whiff of scandal gets so bad even Congress can sense it, there must be something there. President Trump needs to turn up the heat on the DOJ, FBI, NSA, CIA, and the rest of the alphabet until somebody cries uncle. - Elric

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  8. I keep wondering WHAT the Russians did or what they could have done to "help the campaign".

    What was it? If they did something, what actual laws were broken and who broke them?

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  9. Don, the other fact piece that points to Mueller having nothing is all the leaks about him talking with NY State AG Schneiderman about possible state charges to avoid Pardon possibilities.

    That was a message to Manafort to "turn" on Trump. The problem of course is if there's no there there he can't offer any evidence to "turn" Trump.

    The latest Manafort request to release transcripts of the wiretapping show he's not scared, and isn't worried about an indictment. Basically it's a "put up or shut up" statement.

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  10. The day the story broke I wondered why it came out on CNN. I mean...come 'on. Since then while some individuals have questioned the contents of the leak, we don't see the usual non-stop 24/7 MSM hysteria to counter this and dismiss it. Why is that?

    Don brings up some good points, and is possibly on the money. (Especially the possibility that this was leaked out of the FBI.) Only time will tell.

    I do think that a number of things are at work in the background. My hope is that this is the first step in a concerted effort to get the truth out to the American people - that the Obama administration / IC spying is the biggest scandal in American political history. Those that witnessed it remember that Watergate (nothing compared to this) was drip drip drip to both the media and the American people. That's the way these things have to be disseminated.

    I have total faith in President Trump. His MAGA program to 'Drain The Swamp' is less about individual persons and more about the out of control, corrupt, self-serving US government being restored back to following the rule of law and serving the American people. This was never going to be accomplished in an open linear manner. Moves had to go on behind the scenes to establish a new culture and foundation.

    I don't think for one moment that General Kelly, SOS Tillerson, General Mattis, AG Sessions, and General McMaster are sitting around picking pimples and watching a bunch of Ben Rhodes types from Ivy League schools play around with the POTUS, their departments, and the American people.

    Has it occurred to anyone that the Mueller Commission with Rothstein, McCabe, Comey (in the background), and a bunch of connected players from the swamp is a classic red herring tactic of isolating the conspirators and keeping them busy so that the real work can be done?

    - Ken

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  11. Good post and comments. Thank you. It will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. My money is on PDJT. just wonder if the idiots out there -!liberals, kristol, Goldberg, kraut, will, etc. will report it.

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  12. You missed an angle: get the wiretaps in as a subject of the investigation and then hand out "Get Out of Jail Free" cards to all Democrats involved as part of the 'Investigation'. All this is part of the cover-up. Problem Solved!

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  13. The only things being investigated now are who needs immunity deals to make this all go away. You watch.

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  14. While other administrations have used the gubmint agencies as political weapons, none have been so blatant and done it so much as the Chicago Gang.

    The Homeland Security Act was a YUGE mistake, and lies at the bottom of this kind of BS. When we decided it was OK to spy on American citizens in the name of security it was a virtual lock that crooked politicians would use it to go after their opponents.

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  15. Who leaked the existence of the FISA warrant ?

    It's a felony to leak the existence of a secret FISA warrant.

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  16. This is obvious what is known as a "limited hangout" (for those too young to remember Watergate).
    The point of a "limited hangout" to to ease the existence into something that is really bad by letting out just enough to make it yesterday's news.

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  17. What they need to do is to appoint another special counsel - to investigate Mueller for his links to Comey and his selection of staff with links to Clinton - for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

    Force him (and his team) to produce every single email they have sent or received over the past 2 years, and do a 3 am no-knock "visit" on Mueller. I bet he can dish it out but can't take it. He'd squeal like a two year old

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  18. The Russians and how they "hacked" the mechanical voting machines investigation can pick up again when news is scarce. Vain attempt at humor.

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  19. Good but, "Donald Trump is an honest man" is maybe going a bit too far. Unless you mean by DC standards- but that's a really low bar...

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  20. I'd settle for not fully corrupt and in bed with communists.

    Which those of us who voted for Trump did.

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