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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Trump won -- bigly

Trump looked presidential. Clinton looked like a blond Lucille Ball. "The Lucy Show" Lucy -- when she was playing out the string.

From Glenn Reynolds: "SO I’D CALL IT A DRAW. Both Trump and Hillary left key points out. Neither looked awful, but neither looked great. And people I follow on social media seem equally divided."

In baseball, the tie goes to the runner. Trump won.

But it wasn't a tie. That's how the punditry saw it. America saw things differently. This was a big win for Trump.

This election is a referendum on Trump. Once you understand that, the pieces fall into place. All he has to do is look presidential -- and he did.

This was the Donald John Trump that I told readers about in my book. Every pundit in DC is wrong. Again. The online post-debate polls show this.

Not scientific? There is no such thing as a scientific poll. Get over it. Americans are looking for a president. They saw one last night. Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unstoppable.

In other words, the debate did what it should do.

Neither side should complain. Trump confronted her. She deflected. Holt stayed out of the way (as I predicted). This was not his show. What would Chet Huntley do? Exactly what Lester Holt did. I will start watching NBC News again.

She went with the red power suit, while he went with the blue tie. Both were the same gold tone and blond, his with gray roots, hers with brown. I am emphasizing look because that is what this is, visuals. Both had trouble with listening. He glowered. She tried to be dismissive.

She just isn't presidential. She looked like a first lady. The split screen made them look like a husband and wife arguing.

Trump tried to be pleasant. At times, she rudely laughed at his answers.

He showed command of the issues and the facts, while occasionally Clinton sputtered. His line of attack was sure, she has the experience but it is the wrong kind of experience. A while back I said she has experience with foreign policy like Wile E. Coyote has experience with bombs.

And parachutes.

And catapults.

The post-debate cliché was this debate will not change many minds. That was not the point of the debate. The point was to make Trump acceptable to those who want change but were not sure he was the right change agent.

A week from now polls should show him eating away Gary Johnson's votes, while Hillary's numbers are static. Many people who won't vote for Hillary but are unsure about Trump were with Johnson before the debate. That will end.

The media showed its uselessness by going on and on about the birther issue. I watched the post-debate pundits and they all said she won. How? I know why they think that. They like the policy wonk stuff. Never mind that the policy wonk was a walking disaster on foreign policy as a senator, and even worse as secretary of State. The press in Washington is convinced that policy wonks are always right because well, they "know" policy, right?

Just like Wile E. Coyote knows Acme's product line.

Drudge's poll was overwhelmingly in Trump's favor. He won.

Conservative Treehouse has links to Drudge and 14 other polls. It's Trump, Trump, Trump.

And of course, it would not be a Trump debate without Frank Luntz getting it wrong.


Camp Clinton should be worried, wondering how they let the presidency slip away. Again.

By the way, Trump got in several good lines.






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50 comments:

  1. He looked presidential. She looked like a bitter ex-wife or a soon to be ex-wife scolding you when you got in after a night out with the guys. Does anyone really want that for the next 4-8 years? Can't wait to see Dave's comment!

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  2. My husband, who is a fence sitter but dislikes Hillary intensely, stopped watching after about 40 minutes, disgusted and upset with Trump's performance. He felt Hillary looked presidential, calm and in control of the facts. He said it looked like she prepared and he didn't. He is not a political junkie so I consider his opinion as representative of a "regular Joe". Trump needs to up his game next time or it's over.

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    1. Tell your husband that he should feel good about voting for the sickly old lesbian. The White House will be the best form of assisted living anyone could possibly offer her. And Huma.

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  3. I know 50% of "who won" happens after the two sides examine the transcript for gotcha! moments, but I thought Hillary looked very good and Trump sour. Hillary has looked like hell for weeks, last night she was tanned, rested, and ready. Trump was a disappointment, he let himself get baited, waited too long to go after Hillary's problems, and I'm still shaking my head at what he could have done with Hillary directing everyone to her website for fact checking because, yeah, we look to Hillary to set the record straight. What a beautiful present he declined to open.

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  4. Let's not forget that Romney made Obama look like a stammering fool in their first 2012 debate. Romney was the clear winner, and look what happened on Election Day.

    In other words, don't fret. There will be other debates and there are six weeks of campaigning to go.

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    1. Dude, you stole my thunder! Hahaha. Or maybe it's the case of great minds thinking alike...

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  5. Didn't watch it. Too much hype, and besides, what did it matter? Romney destroyed Barry in their first debate and then what happened? We watched The Voice last night and then hit the hay. And I had a very good night's sleep. My mind's already made up. DJT. No debate is going to change that...

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    1. Ditto here, Z. I used to watch these things intently, but no interest in debates any more. The Romney debacle, with Candy Crowley and Benghazi, was the final straw. I watched the Cubs wax the Pirates and win their 100th game, instead. Big win for me, LOL!

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  6. Trump's crankiness (and apparent Pepsi-rival problem) was never more evident than last night. If being presidential means you constantly interrupt another person very rudely; you consider yourself "smart" because you don't pay federal taxes; you make boorish expressions at the slightest hint on needling; and you are not very well schooled on subjects very important to Americans, then Trump nailed it last night. Donald has built his campaign on building a wall and halting Muslim immigrants. He talked about neither last night. He squinted so much, so often last night that I thought his face was going to disappear. Not to worry, Donald not paying federal taxes and going home afterward on his private plane means he gets the average Joe. What flavor is the Kool-Aid today Trumpers?

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    1. Yeah, we just drink Koolaid. You guys drink triple vodkas and face plant into the back seat of an SUV...

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    2. Trump was interrupted 41 times last night, Clinton 7. Which debate were you watching? The one going on in your head?

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    3. http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/the-best-debate-takes-come-from-inside-the-bar/

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    4. Spin all you want Quack. USA Today - which Surber cites often - noted Donald interrupted Clinton at least 26 times in a span of 22 minutes. Other sites note it was in the 50s total.
      Hey Z - you ok that Trump considers himself "smart" for not paying federal taxes. What happens if you don't pay your federal taxes?
      Donald could have picked his nose and you would have thought he won in resounding fashion. But I get it Trumpers, the numerous outlets which state Hillary won are bias and in the tank but the outlets that say Trump won are fair and accurate.
      Why didn't Trump talk at all about his Wall? Or his ban on Muslims?

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    5. Because, you coward troll, he didn't want to. His choice. And you guys are all about choice, right?

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    6. "Why didn't Trump talk at all about his Wall? Or his ban on Muslims?"

      Because he was not given those openings. Debate was fixed.

      Again, given the 2 on one handicap, he held his own.

      Mark S.

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    7. And your whole meme about taxes just makes me giggle. DJT has paid more in taxes than you will make in wages if you had eight lives. Just STFU on that ridiculous assertion.

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    8. How do you know Donnie has paid more in taxes than me ... or anyone? Proof please? Where can I find factual information. Seeing how Donnie refuses to release them whereas every (major) presidential candidate since at least Nixon has released them, it just shows the con man still has you under his spell. Jeezy peets Mark, Trump did so much interrupting last night, he had plenty of ops to speak about his beloved Mexican wall and/or Muslim ban.
      The more you Trumpers complain about about the debate format; bad microphones, etc., the more plain it becomes you realize Donnie got shilled. After all, it was Surber who predicted yesterday that the side that complains the most is the side that thinks it lost. Trump is drooling on himself this morning trying to save face for his no-show performance last night.

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    9. This 'Trump taxes' and tax returns business is a red herring of monumental size and deception. Trump pays tons of taxes. Trump has tons of deductions. Trump makes a of money and has a lot of assets. He gets audited every year and the IRS has a microscope up his backside. This is a non-issue. If you want to talk about tax deception, let us please zero in on the criminal corrupt ripoff of the clinton family crime syndicate foundation. TAking $$ from foreign donors for access to the Sec of State? That is federal prison material. hillary should be locked up for life on numerous counts. but the liberal morons want to talk about Trump's "tax returns." NON ISSUE

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    10. Good Trumpian-like answer. Don't answer the question but deflect to something totally different. If every presidential candidate for the last 40-plus years have released their tax returns, why not Trump? Amazing how no one can answer this. You cannot factually verify anything you posted above.

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    11. Dude you aren't getting it. This is a NON ISSUE. Why do I care about Donald Trump's tax returns? AS he explained to those who listened, he is going to release them when the audit is complete. Frankly I could not care less about Donald Trump's tax returns. EVery billionaire tries to reduce their tax burden, bill and hillary included. The liberal communist media is trying to make this into something big and important, and apparently sheep like yourself are following the clinton news network Tass herd. Bah bah bah.

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    12. So you are okay with Trump not paying federal taxes and him thinking he is smart to avoid doing so. Interesting.
      Thanks for validating my point that you can't factual verify anything about Trump's tax history with your non-answer. And fact: Trump can release his returns at any time, he doesn't have to wait for audit to be complete.
      If you don't care about Trump's tax returns then why do I care about Hillary's emails? Talk about a non-issue. Seven Congressional investigations and counting and still no charges of any sort. Dude you are not getting it. Anything else you want to get schooled in today?

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    13. So Trump does not pay federal taxes. Enjoy your conversation with yourself and the voices in your head in bizarro world. Comparing Trump's tax returns, with hillary's establishment of a private server and the compromise of classified information, suggests that your elevator doesn't quite go to the top. Maybe you can let me in on hillary's plans for fixing Libya, or maybe you can tell me how obamacare has reduced my health care premiums, or maybe you can explain to me how the clinton foundation ripped off Haiti, or any bizarro world topic of choice from the voices inside your tiny head.

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    14. Dear Moron-amous, Also suggest you get yerself a new tinfoil hat about 3 sizes larger than your current model that seems to have cut off the blood flow to your head.

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    15. Farm Girl - please share my nickname you have for me with Teapartyquack. He is in need of some of your "creativity." Tinfoil hat ... wow, is that the best you can do? Sad.

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    16. I think somebody is still sore over being picked last for the pickup baseball, and basketball, and other teams. Still awaiting illumination on how the clintons ripped off Haiti and what hillary's grand plans were for Libya.

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    17. Tell us also, great Moronamous, he of the ginormous tinfoil hat, how it is that Donald Trump gives the IRS the slip every year and does not pay his taxes. Also why does hillary tell us she was dodging sniper fire when she was getting flowers from a little girl? I wonder how someone who is not running or barfing gets 'dehyrdation' (wink wink) on a 75 degree morning? Why does hillary hug little girls when she is contagious with pneumonia? Awaiting your illumination oh liberal midget.

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  7. I looked this morning at results from ~15 online polls. Trump was winning every one of them, most of them bigly.

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    1. Name the 15 polls? I'd like to see them.

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    2. Do some homework, 'Anonymous.' Get on this thing called 'the internet' and you maybe can find it. You sound like a communist liberal calling for a 'fact check.' Do your own work

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    3. OK Anonymous, Go to conservativetreehouse.com and scroll down a page or two and you will see 21 polls and you can read all about it. You're welcome

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    4. I see this site cited Breitbart, which said Clinton won. Hahahahaha. Hey Farm, call up Google news and type in who won the debate. Watch how national sites, not little mid-sized cities newspapers (which Surber says are useless anymore), used metrics to measure Clinton as the winner. If Donnie was such a winner, why is he so barking mad today? His next debate strategy, in his own words? Go after Bill Clinton's infidelity. Oh Boy. How presidential. But what do you expect when sexual predator Roger Ailes is one of his debate strategists. And what is Donnie's obsession with Rosie ODonnell?

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    5. Dude you have to return from bizarro land to have a real conversation. I go to 21 websites and Trump is the debate winner on them all, including little mid-sized cities like Las Vegas (this is out in NV, near the Colorado R, you've never been there apparently). "Metrics" wow that is one of those words the smart boys and girls use, I'll betcha you got yourself some kind of fancy college degree! and I give you the site but you don't like the site so you go elsewhere to get the answer you want. Maybe you can use 'ostrich' as your tag.

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    6. Trump also won with ~80% of the vote on this website out on 'the internet' called 'The Drudge Report.' It is quite popular among people who use this 'internet'. I'd better keep it at that b/c I don't want to confuse you with all this new information. Google it.

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    7. Ooooh. Trump won 80 percent of the vote on a decisively Republican/conservative site. On Occupy Democrats, Clinton won by an even larger margin. Yep, the "internets" as Dubya called it (btw - do Republican like or loathe Dubya now that Trump ridicules him and the whole Bush family?) contains everything factual. That's why Trump can get you AWM so easily in step with his pied piper. I now await your response which will be lacking in thought and creativity.

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    8. Al Gore invented the internet

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    9. I'm not a republican BTW and never liked the Bushes. So there. I expect you to keep swinging for the fences and connecting on nothing but air (but pls keep at it, it's kind of entertaining) but maybe we agree on that one.

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  8. The questions were totally loaded up vs. Trump and played to the liberals' precious issues like 'race.' I thought Trump held his own and did OK. Not a blowout, but a win. Glenn Reynolds yet again exposing his liberal tendencies. He is trying to make up for his blooper about running over people on the highway but he seems to be too stupid to realize he is playing a media game that he never is going to win unless he goes full blown communist -- which I think deep down he really wants to but he likes to present his persona of independent maverick out of the box thinker. Ain't buying it.

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  9. At some point, even the cheerleaders have to suspect that their team might lose. That time may well be approaching for Team Trump.
    There are two aspects of the debate that will carry through for now. One is that Hillary did not collapse, cough or cower. Given her advantage in the media, this performance will be spun as a huge win and that narrative will grow- at least until the next debate, though this first one could have been a deal breaker for Trump. Which leads me to point two. He was absolutely horrible. Trump's two biggest personality traits are: his need to defend himself with in every sense, often using 'weasel words' like 'I settled that with no admission of guilt'; and his willingness to attack his opponent in every way that she might be vulnerable.
    Unfortunately, last night was an outstanding example of the former and almost none of the latter. He missed a yuge opportunity to show the Democratic misunderstanding of the economy when he failed to hit Clinton's advocating for a 'higher minimum wage' and 'bringing jobs back to the US'. The simple fact that everyone would be able to understand is that those jobs have left because labor is cheaper elsewhere already. How is raising the minimum wage going to fix that? He was too busy trying to defend himself to make that obvious and telling point.
    Later, in the area of security (especially cyber security) he completely blew it. He allowed that whole section of the debate to go by without once asking how someone who could not secure her personal email and protect it from being hacked by outside agents, who lost her blackberry on numerous occasions, who lied about how shoddy she had been with classified material could possibly be trusted with protecting the nation from cyber attack. Honestly, that would have been game, set, match and he was again too busy telling us what an amazing guy he was instead.
    At some point, no matter how far in the tank people are for this guy, we have to admit that he might just be the most amazingly successful example of trolling the entire political system we have even seen. Last night, he looked and sounded like a guy who hopes Hillary wins. God help us all...

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    1. http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/the-best-debate-takes-come-from-inside-the-bar/

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  10. Did we watch the same debate? Holt shipped harder for Hillary than Candy Crowley did for Obama four years ago.

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    1. Holt SHILLED for Hillary, not shipped. Stupid autocorrect!

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  11. Farm Boy is the only one touching on a key issue with this debate -- Lester Holt was in the bag for HRC, behaving exactly as you would expect a professional victim and establishment media moderator to behave.

    He asked only HRC's red meat questions and didn't ask any of DJT's. He had several Candy Crowley moments, in which he would interrupt one candidate (guess which one) and not the other.

    I was not enamored of DJT's performance, but he held his own in a 2 on 1 setting. It's also true that HRC betrayed no signs of ill health.

    I figured her staff would be able to keep her standing and cough-free for 90 minutes anyway, and I was concerned that the bar was being set too low for her, as well, by predictions that she would collapse or cough incessantly.

    So both debaters had low bars to clear and both cleared them and more or less fought to a draw -- again, DJT was fighting a handicap match, and a draw works for him. The debate didn't change the dynamic of this race.

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    1. Regards, The Deplorable Mark Siegel

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  12. Best comment before the debate: Trump needs to show he isn't Hitler. Hillary needs to show she isn't Hillary.

    The polls over the day or show should show who succeeded, and how well.

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  13. Don has it right, I think. Like Reagan in '80, all Trump had to show was he isn't scary.

    What impresses me is all the good one-liners requoted by media hostile to him.

    Remember "There you go again"? Same thing.

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  14. Did not watch. Am reading a book on the history of Indonesia instead. Talk about messes! And I'm only up to the late 1700s.

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  15. It's an anti-Establishment election. If you take Clinton, the media, and the punditry as the Establishment, Trump came across as anti all three, which surely must strengthen his position where it counts ... with the voters.

    I mean, Americans ain't looking to elect Snow White here, no more than Ike sent a bunch of Mother Theresas ashore at Omaha. What is being sought is the right tool for the job. It doesn't matter if it has a few blemishes, just so long as it works.

    The only critique I'd make is, I reckon Trump needs to get that "Ramblin' Man" thing under control. For my money, I'd rather just he just deflected any awkward position with an "Opinion Noted. Next Question" than go on and on.

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  16. Look, I've used every talking point I've been given and still you silly people won't drop the pretense and worship the Hillary.
    I'm done with you.

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  17. Don, how do trolls like Moronamous find your site? I've seen toenail fungus that was smarter.

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