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Monday, July 18, 2016

Paul Ryan gets Trump

Republicans have not had a good Speaker of the House since they forced Newt Gingrich to resign. I had very high hopes for John Boehner and he did well as a minority leader. But at the Cleveland convention, Paul Ryan is making amends.

At a lunch for 25 reporters hosted today by the Never Trump News, excuse me, the Wall Street Journal, Ryan said Trump is a conservative, just not his kind.
I come from a different part and wing of the party. I think he is a conservative. There are different kinds of conservatives, that’s for darn sure.
Yes there are different brands of conservatives and the neocons are relatively a new brand that is very post-Reagan.

Protective tariffs are classic conservative. Republican presidents from Lincoln to Reagan protected American industry using them.

As for intervention, Republicans long opposed entering European wars, including World War I. It was not until the liberal Wendell Wilkie received the nomination in 1940 (he had been a Democrat until 1939) that Republicans

America first -- which included staying out of World War II -- was a conservative movement. The idea that we must shove national interests aside in favor of globalism is a post-Reagan invention that frankly is liberal.

Ryan seems to view conservatism narrowly. He told the reporters:
I think he is a conservative because of his experiences, but is he what we refer to as a movement conservative? ... No, because he didn’t come up that way. I know a lot of business leaders who are conservatives, who arrive at their conservatism through their own path in life, not through studying the classics of conservatism.
Trump's life experiences are something absent from DC conservatism. This explains why they missed the Trump Train when so many of us knew it was inevitable last year.
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18 comments:

  1. Too little too late for Paul Ryan. Cantor him.

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  2. Too little too late for Paul Ryan. Cantor him.

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  3. Ryan must be in worse trouble than anyone may think.

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    1. I donated to his opponent...twice. If I did, so must lots of others. That means he's Cantored.

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  4. "I come from a different part and wing of the party. I think he is a conservative. There are different kinds of conservatives, that’s for darn sure."

    So, he's saying it's a broad church.

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  5. I had a man crush on Paul Ryan four years ago. Now, I detest his ass. He'd better straighten up and fly right, soon. He still wants me to give him money! I'm like, bullsh-- with that, dude. There's a new Sherriff in town. And those of you who can't deal with it can GTFO.

    Funny that the Colorado delegation walked out. They're gonna eat some magic chocolate and pleasure themselves with pictures of Hillary. Smell ya later, losers...

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  6. The Colorado delegation walked out of the convention?!? Good grief what a bunch of spoiled children. Go off and do a few bong hits guys, we're going to redirect every somali and syrian in the nation to Boulder and Denver and Ft Collins since you are just too groovy for border protection etc.

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    1. NO,NO. Please don't do that. I live here and do not like what the delegates did. Never will vote for anyone they support.

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  7. Ryan is from the liberal democrat wing of conservativism. That's for darn sure!

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  8. I see that in the latest post above that somehow critically dregs up the innocent happenings at the Colorado caucus that were perfectly legal under the rules as was Ted Cruz doing what was required to get these delegates.

    It is also inconceivable to me that anyone would question Mike Lee's honesty and conservative values - but you did so you are obviously no longer conservative. I hope that you can keep from falling into the deep end as Charles Johnson did years ago at LGF.

    Mike Lee made a call for a Roll Call vote to unbound delegates, which you pointed out would likely fail, in order to discover the real desires of the delegates but the Chair faked a voice vote so that we, the real voters, will never know their preference. Mike Lee was not wrong, and the Chair lied on behalf of the liar, Donald Trump. The Chair then abandoned his post and sent goons around to the delegations sponsoring the roll call to twist some arms to prevent a real vote. The final ruling from the Chair was singular not parliamentary - thus it was improper.

    If this is the new politics of The Donald, I am not buying. The rank and file of the NeverTrump grows larger every day and the convention just got under way. BTW, why no comments section on the new post?

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    1. Never Trump means Always Hillary. You really need to do a reality check.

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  9. I accidentally left the comments off on that post. They are now open. The Colorado state party was run by Never Trump (remember the celebratory tweet) which bent the rules in Cruz's favor. Cleveland thing was a voice vote on whether to have a rollcall. Trump has the times as many delegates. They said no, and won the voice vote. This is not a nominating convention. We already voted and Trump won by 6 million votes over Cruz. Mike Lee's attempt to strip Trump of his delegates was loathsome, dishonorable and NOT conservative, as conservatives believe in fair play and being good sports.

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    1. Do conservatives like Ryan wave a Steelers' Terrible Towel in Cleveland?

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  10. Perhaps Barfly can define "conservative values" for us in specific policy terms that don't reduce to a matter of taste. As far as I'm concerned the conservative movement is dead. It committed suicide this year by punching to the right so much that the collective momentum of it's punching forced it into the left side of the Overton Window and the majority of the right is now outside of it. People like Barfly delude themselves that they are some kind of pure remnant, a priesthood of virtue in opposition to apostate right wing heretics who have lost their way. They read people like Don and then look into their little books of common prayer and dogma and decide that anything and anyone they can't find in them are not pure enough to pass muster. Who cares? The world will go on without the likes of Barfly. In another twenty years the conservative movement will be something read about in history books.

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  11. It is laughable that an amnesty-traitor and global-governance advocate like Paul Ryan thinks he can himself up as judge of Trump's conservative bona fides.

    I would not trust Paul Ryan any further than I could throw him.

    The only reason Ryan is trying to get close to Trump is the recent disastrous poll numbers where the Wisconsin weasel has gone from 80% to roughly 40%. Lord send that Ryan follow the same path to obscurity which Dave Brat's GOPe predecessor now treads.

    Steve in Greensboro

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  12. Ryan is a lying, hypocritical, liberal Capitol Hill crapweasel whose entire life consists of doing the Potomac two-step. He knows NOTHING of life in America for the average worker and family. He is a turncoat and traitor to the Republican party and does not support the protection of American citizens and workers. Wisconsin voters get this clown out of office!

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  13. I wouldn't trust Paul Ryan as far as I can throw him. Hopefully he'll be spending more time in his walled compound real soon because he won't have a job. On second thought he probably will have a job working with Eric Holder, Ted and Heidi at Goldmain Sachs

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  14. A focus of Ryan's useless and very unimpressive accomplishments while in office has been to overrun the US with as many immigrants as possible. He rates an "F" at NumbersUSA. He is an operative for the Chamber of Commerce and is a leader in destroying wages and job opportunities for American workers. He may have the worst record on enforcing immigration law and reducing the numbers of any Republican. "F" grades are reserved for the likes of Feinstein, Pelosi, and the heroes that represent me in the State of VA: Beyer, Warner, and Kaine ("F" grades for all three of these weasels).

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