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Thursday, April 14, 2016

Welcome, Karl Rove, to the dark side

Sometimes it gets a little lonely here on the Dark Side. Other than me and Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit, there are not many Trumpkins among the blogs I follow. Apparently Karl Rove will join the team.




Rove is a lot like Trump in that he catches flak from conservatives as well as the mortal enemy -- liberals. I have poked at Rove, but always bearing in mind that he did help flip West Virginia in 2000 and he is a reason we finally flipped the Legislature in 2014. Small part. Hired Coddy Johnson and listened to Buck Harless. But there is more to like than dislike about the man.

So I hope this Politico report is true:
Karl Rove has publicly blasted Donald Trump as “a petty man consumed by resentment and bitterness” with little gravitas and almost no chance of beating Hillary Clinton.
But privately, the super PAC conceived by Rove is suggesting to its donors that it can help Trump win the White House and save Republican senators whose reelection bids could be jeopardized by having Trump at the top of the ticket.
The apparent warming of the American Crossroads super PAC and its sister groups to Trump has become evident in its recent communications with donors, including a Tuesday afternoon “investor conference call,” according to multiple sources familiar with the outreach.
The phone call — which featured Rove, Crossroads officials and a pollster — laid out swing state polling and electoral map analysis done by the group showing circumstances in which Trump could beat Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, in a general election, according to three sources briefed on the call.
One source, a high-level operative with the Koch brothers’ conservative advocacy network, characterized the conversation as heralding “a softening of the anti-Trump position” within the big-money GOP establishment. The source added of Crossroads’ stance on Trump, “It's not that they support him, only that if he's the guy, we can do something to stop Hillary.”
Politics is math. the numbers are in Trump's favor.

Hillary has a hard core of 40 percent for and 40 percent against.

Trump's core is 30 percent for, but you really cannot say what his hard core against is, because he has not been a politician as long as she has. Sure, people know of him but they do not know him.

Rove is doing the numbers. Maybe he is thinking elect Trump president, and then deal with him. Sometimes the devil you don't know beats the devil you do.

Anyway, I want this over so I can get on with my book.

21 comments:

  1. Good points.

    A deal with the party may already be in the works.

    The party can't afford 40% (or more) of its people staying home (I think that's the significance of the 100 offer yesterday) since that would be the end of Republican control of Congress and Trump would like a united party going into Cleveland so we can get over this delegate poaching business (which I believe was meant to help Jeb! if he was short a couple, not somebody 800 delegates down).

    I think he's already got a deal with Kasich and maybe one with Rubio (he's been very quiet through all this) and no one disassociated themselves when Trump mentioned them as having possible places in a Trump Administration.

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  2. All the Architect (a/k/a Turd Blossom) cares about is what's in it for Turd Blossom

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    1. That's bad?

      As long as he can help, that's what matters. Unlike the acolytes of the Anointed One, we welcome all, true believers or otherwise.

      (problem is, the Anointed One has very little problem with outright crooks)

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  3. Just as long as he is an honest crook - one who will stay bought.

    Kennedy and Johnson didn't have to like each other to capture the flag together.

    Kennedy had to bring a number of disenchanted Stevensonites on board as well.

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    1. Stevenson got the UN ambassadorship and made the "till hell freezes over" comment -- and was totally out of the loop

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    2. I have a feeling this isn't just Rove, but the Bush family, coming to its senses. If 41, Dubya, and Jeb! don't like what they see of the party and where it's going, then Rove's word carries a ton of weight.

      And he will then most assuredly stay bought.

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  4. Karl Rove is cold product. Eminem. A woodpecker gave me some aural crap this morning and it made more sense than what Karl Rove said. Big D, do not get seduced by people like him. He's cold product. Just write what you know in your heart to be RIGHT.

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  5. Thanks, Don now I see Rove as Darth Fudd...
    But Trump is much preferable to the butcher
    of Benghazi....
    TG

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  6. People know trump better than they know Clinton, so to say his ceiling is unknown is absurd. The man had a hit show and has been as well known as any celebrity since the early 90s. His ceiling is 40% and he would lose to Clinton horribly.

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    1. Send me your email address and I will bet you a c note right now that DJT will kick Hillary's ass. Mine is kellyottopalmer@gmail.com. Come on meat. Put your money where your mouth is.

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    2. People knew Ronald Reagan also, as an actor, and as the governor of California and as a prominent political figure over and above that, and his "ceiling" wasn't supposed to be high enough to enable him to beat Jimmy Carter.

      Is there any other Republican candidate on this planet who could conceivably win New York other than DJT?

      All of that having been said, I have no idea who would win the general election between DJT and HRC. A world in which Barack Obama could be re-elected is a world in which there is no law of gravity.

      But I would say that Trump is the only Republican who can possibly win the general election.

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    3. Very well said, Mr. Siegel. The law of gravity comment especially. There is crazy gas in the air these days, most definitely.

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  7. I think we're seeing the ice jam breaking. The polls in NY show that Trump can win the nomination and the professionals need to get on board. As that happens, and Trump becomes more "presidential" as he is in today's WSJ column, he's well on his way to election.

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    1. Moneyrunner...I would like to think that being more "presidential" is a reflection of the man, not an act. With Trump I am not sure. I will vote for him only out of my utter contempt for Clinton. But if he is to have a chance, he needs a serious attitude adjustment and needs to offer up specifics on how he would fix things for the country.

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  8. I was looking out the window and thought I saw pigs flying, but then I realized it was just Karl Rove realizing which way the gravy train was heading. "Everybody loves a winner..." - Elric

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  9. Liberals are so darn two faced the walk down the street and see day and night at the same time

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  10. Note that the people who are saying that Trump's unfavorables are too high to win the general are the ones who were saying that his unfavorables were too high to win the nomination nine months ago.

    Hillary's unfavorables are right there with Trump, so it all comes down to turnout, and Trump can motivate people. Hillary can't.

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  11. So Trump is going establishment and is ready to take money from Rove. Also interesting that you guys have been saying for the past year that Rove is the biggest idiot every born, but now that he is considering backing Trump, he is a wise man all of the sudden, what hypocrites. But then christie went from smarmy opportunist to wise statesman as well, so I guess rove can too. I may wonder, if Cruz had done this, the trumpies would be all over him, but I guess trump can do things nobody else can, basically if the trumpies did not have double standards they would have none at all.
    By the way, as long as you want to talk about people leaving the party (even though many of the trumpies were never repubs in the first place) you may want to mention the millions of Conservative activists, Tea Party, and libertarians who may leave if Trump is nominated. And if Trump is really that popular, why did he only getb37% of the repub primary vote. I dont see a trump victory in any of his polls vs hilary, and his huge negatives. Larry Sabateau looked at it and Trump was losing big, a dem landslide.

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    1. "Many of the Trumpies were never repubs in the first place".

      Er, doesn't that mean that he's been growing the party?

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  12. As I snicker at the thought of the word "libertarians" and "millions" being used in the same breath, I suggest that the thought of President Hillary Rodham Clinton will bring most of those people to their senses, even if they have to hold their noses as they vote for Trump.

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  13. You should read Bill Quick at DailyPundit, he's been out front with Trump for quite some time.

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