"Remember, I came in as a Reaganite, Kempite when I helped lead the effort in 1994. And I have consistently been in favor of a more aggressive, more active Republican Party that reaches out and expands its base and that is very, very idea-oriented. I think Washington is a city with enormous problems. I think we need somebody — and both Cruz and Trump fit this — who is going to break up the old order and insist on real change. It’s not that I am sanguine. This will lead to a period of very real challenges, but I think we need it," Newt told him.
Newt suggested Chotiner read Trump's books: "I have a very simple rule, which applied to Obama, and Bill Clinton, which is that somebody smart enough to get millions of votes is somebody I should study. I have enough humility to believe that maybe they know things I don’t. Here was a guy on the cover of Time magazine in 1989, who had the No. 1 best-selling business book in the 1980s, had the No. 1 television show. There is a rumor that I cannot verify that NBC was offering him $12 million per episode."
I liked this exchange:
CHOTINER: When you hear Trump address subjects like NATO, it doesn’t worry you?And there was this exchange:
NEWT: No. I read what he said about NATO, and I think it has been grossly taken out of context. What he said about NATO was the Bush-Rumsfeld position, which is that the Europeans ought to pick up more of the slack.
CHOTINER: What about his thoughts on Putin?
NEWT: [Laughs.] He doesn't want to get into a fight with Putin. I don’t know that that is stupid. Putin has 5,000 nuclear weapons. You want to try and defend the Obama fecklessness? All bluster and no performance.
NEWT: Yeah. So Trump has carried it to perfection. The media doesn’t like it but the fact that Trump, if you watch some of the things the media does to Trump, the fact that he fights back doesn’t bother me at all. It’s hardly authoritarianism, for Pete’s sake. Unless you want to say that Margaret Thatcher is an authoritarian, and John F. Kennedy, who you will remember at one point kicked out the New York Herald.Gingrich hit on something that is on the edges, that Trump represents something alien to the conservative intellectuals in Washington. His rise repudiates their beliefs -- the very core of who they are. Churlish King Charles Krauthammer deigns night after night to shre his wealth of wisdom on the topics of the day.
CHOTINER: I didn't know that. For what?
NEWT: He didn't like the coverage so he kicked him out of the White House.
CHOTINER: Well, I don’t approve of that.
NEWT: Of course you don’t. I do. I’m a politician. I thought it was kind of cool. You are the press. We are even.
The peasantry pushed back. Now it ignores him.
"They are inbred, they talk to each other, they are treating the American people with contempt. Forget Trump. Seventy percent of Republicans between Trump, Carson, and Cruz have repudiated their world. And they are saying, 'Boy, these people are really hicks. They are so stupid they have been taken in.' Well maybe, just maybe, those American people know something the guys in Washington don’t, and frankly, I am on the side of the American people, not the Washington intellectuals," Gingrich said.