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Friday, May 22, 2015

Melting ice changes gravity?

When the "scientists" whop push global warming panic said that sea ice melting would cause the seas to rise, I thought, well, they don't understand displacement.

Now they say Antarctic ice melting will change the Earth's gravity. You cannot get much more ignorant than that.

From the London Daily Mail:
The Antarctic ice sheet in a previously stable part of the frozen continent is thinning at a rate that has added more than 300 trillion liters of water to the surrounding ocean in the past six years.
Scientists have expressed alarm at the rate of ice loss at the Southern Antarctic Peninsula, which had shown no signs of change until 2009, when it started suffering rapid destabilization.
Now new research has revealed that glaciers along the peninsula have been melting at accelerating rates, causing the mass of ice there to reduce.
The loss of ice in the region is so large that it has caused the gravitation field of the Earth to change, according to some measurements conducted by scientists.
The Earth's gravity depends on its mass. Water does not lose mass when it shifts from a solid to a liquid, and vice versa.



  1. Is this the area of the Antarctic with the volcanic activity going on under the ice?

    1. I believe it is. I guess global warming must cause volcanoes. Who knew?

  2. Ignorance can be fixed. Stupidity is forever or to quote Ron White, "You can't fix stupid."

  3. " Water does not lose mass when it shifts from a solid to a liquid, and vice versa."

    Yes, but the water, being a liquid, does not remain in the same place as the solid ice from which the water melted, and gets re-distributed to other seas around the globe. This has an infinitesimal but measurable effect on the shape of the earth and the distribution of its mass. The gravitational field of the earth depends not on just the total mass of the earth, but the geometrical distribution of that mass. The earth is not a point mass.

    "You cannot get much more ignorant than that". Yes you can. As a layman with no training in science, you can write a blog and comment on things outside one's expertise.

    1. Yes. You can. The good news here is that Mr. Has identified himself as a journalist-blogger, while the sources of the nonsense do not, preferring to fraudulently claim to be scientists.

      Just as points of interest, Dr. S. A., what ARE the observed differences in "the Earth's gravity" as a percentage of the total.?

      What are the distributional changes in the total of the Earth's mass due to the change in state of the southern waters, as compared to, say, the fractures in Nepal? Approximately is OK.

    2. "Gravity is a force which tries to pull two objects toward each other. Anything which has mass also has a gravitational pull. The more massive an object is, the stronger its gravitational pull is. Earth's gravity is what keeps you on the ground and what causes objects to fall. Gravity is what holds the planets in orbit around the Sun and what keeps the Moon in orbit around Earth. The closer you are to an object, the stronger its gravitational pull is. Gravity is what gives you weight. It is the force that pulls on all of the mass in your body."

      Geometrical distribution isn't mentioned.

  4. Don, I don't believe in man-made global warming any more than you do, but a poor argument is a poor argument, and I don't want you see you engaging in one. I've seen others use your displacement argument before about seas rising, and it always ignores the fact that not all ice is sea ice. If the ice on land in Antarctica and Greenland were to melt, the seas would definitely rise.

    Personally, I believe the Russian scientist who says that we are going into another "little ice age." That's the real "climate change."